Talk:Florencia en el Amazonas

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First Spanish opera[edit]

Just curious about: It was the first Spanish-language opera to be commissioned by major U.S. opera houses. What about Yerma, 1971, Santa Fe Opera? --DrG 09:31, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)

Was Yerma commissioned by Santa Fe, or did it merely debut there? It may also be possible that the person who wrote this (the information comes from the program) either did not know about Yerma, or used the term "major" as a way of accounting for it. I suppose whether Santa Fe qualifies as major is a subjective question, but clearly it's not in the same class as the three here. --Michael Snow 18:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Yerma was not commissioned by Santa Fe, only premiered there. Villa-Lobos wrote it in the 50's but never heard it performed. However, the Kennedy Center commissioned Alberto Ginastera to compose Beatrix cenci for the opening season in 1967. The libretto was written in Spanish by William Shand, an American living in Argentina, and Alberto Girri. So, Florencia is not the first Spanish-language opera to be commissioned by a major US presenter, but I suppose it can be argued that a commission from a "private" opera house is a different class from a "public" one. It is also true that it was a co-commission, and that does make a further distinction from the Kennedy Center commission. --Frankentenor (talk) 15:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

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Removing and Replacing the Performance History Section[edit]

I appreciate the effort being put into the "performance history" portion of the article. Unfortunately the purpose of a performance history section isn't to list every performance of the opera done. It is to provide history and detail on notable performances, such as the premiere, or a performance with noted significance.

It is important to replace it with a section which is in line with Wikipedia standards.

The performance history as well as covering the world premiere and significant premieres in other countries, may indicate the popularity of the work and the regularity with which it is performed (in the world as whole) – as appropriate.

When available, it is helpful to include the cast at the premiere(s) in the list of roles The norm when listing or referring to roles is to give proper names in their original form (in whatever language), while translating the others into English. For example the roles in Richard Strauss's Salome are given as: Herodes, Herodias, Salome, Jochanaan, Narraboth, the page of Herodias, first Jew, second Jew (etc.), first Nazarene, second Nazarene (etc.), first soldier, second soldier, a Cappadocian, a slave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Opera/Article_guidelines — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewMexMike (talkcontribs) 16:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I completely agree with you NewMexMike. The performance history section needs to be re-written in prose and cover only the world premiere (in much greater detail and referenced to reviews), the subsequent premieres at the two other co-sponsoring companies—Los Angeles Opera and Seattle Opera, and its European premiere. The unreferenced laundry list of every further performance is inappropriate. The only justifiable ones to cover would be those with a major new or unusual production which has received significant attention from the press. The listing of alleged future performances is even more inappropriate and basically used as advertisements for those companies. I've gone ahead and removed those. Feel free to rewrite the rest yourself, or I'll try to get around to it in the coming week. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your help, Voceditenore. If there's anything you can do it would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime I'll be working on the synopsis for Il Postino. NewMexMike (talk) 23:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
I've now rewritten the performance history section in prose along the lines mentioned above. I've also added multiple references from independent sources which can be used by anyone wishing to expand the article further. Voceditenore (talk) 15:30, 3 September 2016 (UTC)