Talk:Florida State Road 997

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Untitled[edit]

I removed the bit about the bypasses. SR 944 was defined before the 1945 renumbering, as were the northern part of 826 and 997 south of 90. There is no evidence given that these were considered together - SR 944 was an urban route. If they were considered part of a system of bypasses, please cite sources. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 20:33, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Hot Stop talk-contribs 07:51, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


– Per the result of a discussion in Talk:Bird Road on similarly named Miami area road articles and Wikipedia conventions on common name, a move of the article title to "Krome Avenue" (the common name) is practical. FrickFrack 21:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Florida State Road 909West Dixie Highway – Per the result of a discussion in Talk:Bird Road on similarly named articles on Miami area roads, a move to "West Dixie Highway" (the common name) is practical. FrickFrack 21:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Oppose: Dixie Highway isn't just a Florida road. "West Dixie Highway" should redirect to "Dixie Highway". Please see the Dixie Highway article. Dixie Highway had a west route and an east route, so West Dixie Highway refers to the west route. Some other parts of West Dixie Highway still exist outside of Florida and still use the name "Dixie Highway" – e.g. in Louisville, Kentucky. And there's no mention of Dixie Highway at Talk:Bird Road. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:54, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Florida State Road 994Quail Roost Drive – Per the result of a discussion in Talk:Bird Road on similarly named articles on Miami area roads, a move to "Quail Roost Drive" (the common name) is practical. FrickFrack 21:29, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Florida State Road 860Miami Gardens Drive – Per the result of a discussion in Talk:Bird Road on similarly named articles on Miami area roads, a move to "Miami Gardens Drive" (the common name) is practical. FrickFrack 21:33, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Notification comment: None of the affected target pages seem to have move notices to indicate that they may be replaced. Shouldn't the bot have done that, like it did for the pages that would replace them? —BarrelProof (talk) 12:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Oppose all—the only thing granting these roads notability is the fact that they are state routes. Were they not, we wouldn't have articles on them. Therefore, the state route naming convention should be used for the title. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 17:57, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
    • Also, the Bird Road RM should not be used as a precedent, because as far as I can tell, there was no attempt to notify relevant WikiProjects (WP:USRD or WP:USST) before the request was closed. —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 18:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose all per Scott5114. --Rschen7754 18:43, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose all page moves, oppose use of the Bird Road precedent and, although this has no teeth and is probably just me making a point, censure the editor who proposed moving pages of Route X and Y on the talk of Page Z. It is underhanded to try to push page moves this way. There should really be a Request for Comments on a convention that justifies making these page moves.  V 20:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose all - Route numbers are the preferred method of article titles in the United States. Dough4872 02:47, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

RJL reversions[edit]

I've reverted the article back to the shortened RJL, primarily as it is a summary of a technical document for the road, and because this is an encyclopedia article, not a travel guide. In particular, it is for these reasons:

  • A fair number of the roads mentioned in the RJL have little to no notability in themselves. Just because they happen to link to the HEFT does not give them notability, and thus notability in terms of SR 997. If Campbell Drive and Biscayne Drive were State Roads, then they could be added.
  • SR 9336 does not go to Biscayne National Park, only the Everglades. While Biscayne could be reached from using SR 9336; again, it is not contextual in terms of SR 997 as it requires additional travel on a number of non-State Roads. It could also be reached using other means, from what I can tell on a map.
  • Miami Dade College Homestead is not situated on Krome Avenue, which is why it is not mentioned in the route description and thus should not be mentioned in the RJL.
  • There is currently not enough verifiable information on Former SR 5A to merit its inclusion in the RJL. If additional information was provided, then it could be included.

-DyluckTRocket (talk) 05:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

344th/Palm goes to Biscayne, and there are signs pointing that way. Other intersections also have signs as listed in the junction list. --NE2 12:35, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Seeking third party opinions from other WP:USRD editors. -DyluckTRocket (talk) 08:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
The shorter version is better, and the "justification" given above doesn't address the points above. So in that case, +1 to the shorter RJL. Imzadi 1979  02:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
RFC started
This is a slow-moving, stupid edit war, so we should seek more input from the community and get this resolved. –Fredddie 21:53, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

I would like to see the connection between the name 'Krome' Avenue with the person(s) for whom it is named. I assume it is either William J. Krome, one of Henry Flagler's chief surveyors/civil engineers, or WJK's son William H. Krome, a prominent South Dade farmer, researcher, and industry and community leader. When was the name 'Krome' assigned to this thoroughfare, and what events precipitated the naming? Thank You!

184.91.198.162 (talk) 13:46, 11 August 2016 (UTC) Max 184.91.198.162 (talk) 13:46, 11 August 2016 (UTC)