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Merge[edit]

This article should be merged with The Flying Dutchman (disambiguation) Schmiteye 00:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I've made the proper proposal indications. Discussion (if any) is on this page. Radagast 22:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Merge articles posthaste. --Micahbrwn 04:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Seconded. DocWatson42 06:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Against, unless the ship, as the original source, takes precedence over all other forms of the phrasing. The Flying Dutchman type of dinghy should not be mistaken for the imfamous ocean-going phantom vessel. --Chr.K. 02:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Why isnt there any reference to Spongebob squarepants in the adaptions section; The flying dutchmen was a funny character in the series.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.162.234.66 (talk) 22:21, 21 April 2008

I, too, am surprised by a complete lack of reference to the Flying Dutchman character from the Spongebob Squarepants series. However, since the cartoon character is a reference to the historical legend in name only and not in substance, I would only expect the Spongebob reference to appear on the main article in a new Reference in popular culture section, and not in the Adaptations section.

I second the vote that the Spongebob Flying Dutchman character be added to the main article of The Flying Dutchman, but no further than as a popular culture reference.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 09:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Tom Holt[edit]

Tom Holt wrote 'Flying Dutch' on the subject. Someone add please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.247.130.107 (talk) 17:55, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

In-N-Out[edit]

In-N-Out Burger has a menu item called Flying Dutchman.--Gimlifangirl

Jacks[edit]

There is a way to play jacks called 'the flying dutchman'... ive yet to figure the rules, yet find it very interesting. correlation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.99.136 (talk) 03:09, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Fever[edit]

Could a disease be the cause for some origins of this story? For example, the book "Principles of Virology" by Enquist, Krug etc... state this on page 5. It might be interesting to put up that connection between a disease, a missing crew, and a "ghost ship". I did not find the origin though, but I did find another article: http://yellowfever.lib.virginia.edu/reed/data/0f669b9a960ba3b2912165fe58860259.html and the pic of a transcript in 1931 http://yellowfever.lib.virginia.edu/newreed/images/large/KAMD1170.JPG

I believe this should be mentioned in the main article, perhaps with one short sentence about "origins" or similar? 80.108.103.172 (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

First published when ?[edit]

It says this story first appeared in print in 1795 and then a bit later in 1821. So which is it ?Eregli bob (talk) 13:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

It also claims the story comes from the 17th century Captain Fokke. Thats the 1600's. So at least 100 years before the story appears in print anywhere ?

Van Der Decken[edit]

Who was this man? Did he ever existed? Did this ship ever existed, is there any evidence of such ship, leaving the shore, or even being builded? Is this just a myth invented by some mitomans? Was this ever checked, that such man ever lived? If not, then whole thing is just a myth, a story, told to those who easily believe any story? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.49.117.181 (talk) 03:57, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

In some sources it is also "Van der Vecken". 82.161.147.71 (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Sedna[edit]

Should it be mentioned that this was the old nickname for 90377 Sedna? Lanthanum-138 (talk) 07:17, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Other Video Game Appearances[edit]

The FD also appears in the open source 'Elite' remake "Oolite", as an expansion pack, as a ghostly transparent Cobra Mk. III twitter.com/jontycampbell 11:41, 22 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiojonty (talkcontribs)

' Flying Dutchman ' or ' Flying Dutchman '?[edit]

It seems as if this was originally a description of the ship, rather than the name which would have been painted on her. So should we follow the same principle as with the Fireship of Baie des Chaleurs and the Ghost Ship of Northumberland Strait, and not use italics? Or has 'Flying Dutchman' 'become' the actual name of the legendary ship over the years? Or am I being pedantic? Alekksandr (talk) 19:26, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd say that technically per MOS:ITALIC it shouldn't be in italics since in fact it's a nickname that appeared later, which refers to the ghostly soaring, while the ship's actual name (as far as I know) is unknown, so I wouldn't object deitalicization. Brandmeistertalk 19:50, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Now done. Alekksandr (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Categories[edit]

I have moved this page to Category:Derelict Vessels which is a sub-category of Category:Ghost ships. Alekksandr (talk) 20:44, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Old and New revision of this page[edit]

Why do we have a number of Wikipedia pages covering the same subject topic??, I mean even if the first "Flying Dutchman" page is an old revision of this one, why can't we work to improve whatever is there instead of creating many pages with the same subject topic ? Bobbyshabangu talk 10:05, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Children's game?[edit]

Curiosously, no mention of the children's game? It was a fixture when I was of playground-age. Described here: Flying Dutchman Game 67.198.37.16 (talk) 22:33, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

With all due respect, while I was never a cub scout, I was a boy scout and never heard of this game from other scouts who had been cubs. That's really of no consequence here; however, what does matter is that the source you gave is a blog, an unreliable source, with a note at the bottom, "This site is not officially associated with the Boy Scouts of America." The game would need to be reliably sourced before it can be mentioned.  Temporal Sunshine Paine  03:54, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
The game has nothing at all to do with scouting. Its a children's game, not a scout's game. So you've never played it or even heard of it; that proves nothing at all. So what; I fail to see how wiki-lawyering and obfuscating and general antagonism helps improve wikipedia. Cheeses. 67.198.37.16 (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
So why give me grief? Just add a brief description of the game to the article without a source and see if it's challenged. Just because a source isn't cited doesn't mean a reliable source can't be found. And also remember that we're all volunteers here, so stuff it, volunteer. Face-smile.svg  Temporal Sunshine Paine  17:31, 7 August 2016 (UTC)