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FSMC in Poland[edit]

Dear Wikipedians!

I'm afraid tha FSM Church in Poland is still not legally recognized. The quote from The official page (http://www.klps.pl/) of FSMC (Kościół Latającego Potwora Spaghetti) states:

"Wniosek o rejestrację KLPS został wysłany 27 lipca 2012. 15 marca 2013 otrzymaliśmy decyzję odmowną. 28 kwietnia 2015 sąd uchylił II odmowną decyzję MAiC, mimo to urząd 19 sierpnia ponownie odmówił rejestracji. 17 września 2015 wysłaliśmy III skargę do WSA."

I will not transtale, but basically it means that bureaucratic procedure is still in progress and not ended.

Also, quote from Polish Wikipedia about FSM is:

"Przedstawiciele KLPS zapowiedzieli odwołanie od decyzji, a także skargi do Sądu Administracyjnego w Warszawie, Naczelnego Sądu Administracyjnego i Trybunału Praw Człowieka[19]. 8 kwietnia 2014 Wojewódzki Sąd Administracyjny w Warszawie wyrokiem uchylił decyzje Ministra Administracji i Cyfryzacji, Michała Boniego z 2013 roku [3][20]. Następca Boniego na stanowisku ministra administracji i cyfryzacji, Rafał Trzaskowski zapowiedział możliwość zmiany decyzji ministerstwa[21] na korzystną dla pastafarian. W październiku 2014 roku sekretarz stanu Stanisław Huskowski wydał w imieniu Ministra Administracji i Cyfryzacji decyzję o ponownej odmowie rejestracji Kościoła Latającego Potwora Spaghetti. Od decyzji MAC Kościół się odwołał i następna rozprawa w sprawie rejestracji została wyznaczona na 28 kwietnia 2015."

Which also means that the procedure is in progress (although this is slightly outdated).

Most probably the Polish officials will do not recognize FSMC and Pastafarians will have to sue Poland in European Court of Human Rights.

I know that the linked page says otherwise, but it is not correct.

EDIT: Yeah, I forgot to sign :P --Kaworu1992 (talk) 15:03, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

First wedding information incorrect[edit]

5280native (talk) 21:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Multiple places here, and in the media, state the 1st official wedding was just recently in New Zealand. This is highly incorrect, as I myself have performed three official weddings in the name of the Church of the FSM as an ordained minister of the church (I was not the first either). This all started from one misinformed AP writer in New Zealand. I, and those others, who have performed weddings in the name of his noodly goodness would like this to be fixed. R'amen.

Please provide some reliable neutral references to back up this claim. Thanks and R'amen to you too.--Dmol (talk) 22:06, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Important Changes Must Be Made[edit]

All throughout the page, the Church of FSM is constantly called a 'parody religion' or 'satirical'. There is also an issue with some basic information such as, saying that it was first seen in 2005, the creator was the Prophet Bobby, THAT is not the truth. Pastafarians have been around for a long time, the originals were pirates. Bobby didn't create the FSM, he was just touched by His noodly appendages and made it widely public. Nobody created the FSM, He created us, we did not create Him. Pirate XIV (talk) 05:20, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

If you will notice, our article on the Mormonism does not say that the religion was founded by Jesus. Nor does our article on Islam say that the religion was first practiced by Adam and only revived by Muhammad. Nor do the articles on Arya Samaj or the Transcendental Meditation movement credit the authors of the Vedas as their founder. That is because Wikipedia sticks to secular history. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Ummm, Jesus is in the official name for the Mormon church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the Islam article says "Muslims also believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed many times before through prophets including Adam...." maybe you were making a joke or maybe you don't know what you are talking about... Lipsquid (talk) 17:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

"Pastafarian" pre-dates FSM[edit]

There was an old joke I heard back in the 80's along the lines of "have you heard of pastafarians? they listen to ragu music". It seems this deserves mention in the article as FSM acolytes clearly co-opted a bit of pre existing history. (and btw, "ragu" is an Italian word for spaghetti sauce, it's not just an American brand) 68.175.11.48 (talk) 17:05, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

They must have been pirates or descendants of pirates. It is an ancient religion, approximately 6,000 years old, per devout adherents. Lipsquid (talk) 17:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)