Talk:Folie à Deux (album)/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Wikipedian Penguin (talk · contribs) 23:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Long article indeed; will take some time to review. Glad to help! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 23:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks so much for taking the time to review it Wikipedian Penguin! Basilisk4u (talk) 03:30, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Disambiguation and sources
  • Sources have been verified as reliable.
  • "believing he 'dominated' the band's previous record" - quotation not supported by source. The source says "dominating", but not "dominated".
Removed quotes
  • "Working again with Neal Avron — the primary producer of Fall Out Boy's last two records — the quartet made a decision to dial back the heavily multitracked sound of their last album." - WP:PLAGIARISM. The text was directly copied from the source without quotations, constituting a copyvio.
  • "Stump entered the studio with music for nearly 50 songs." - close paraphrasing
How do you think I should reword this?
I can see changing "nearly" to "almost", but nothing else. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 01:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Not all sources have been spotchecked, but make sure no copyvio text exists in this article.
  • Personnel section is unsourced.

The following are linked more than once in the body of the article: (they should only be linked once)

 Done. I believe I caught them all, let me know if I missed anything. Basilisk4u (talk) 01:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • "Like the band's two previous releases, the music was composed" - strange connection. What music? Do you mean "Like the band's two previous releases, Folie à Deux was composed"?
This is supposed to establish the fact that the music was written by Stump, and the lyrics were written by Wentz. I was trying to differentiate the two. I can see how it would be confusing though. Do you have any suggestions? Basilisk4u (talk) 02:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
The word "composed" automatically refers to the music. Lyrics are written, not composed. You can try my suggestion above. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 10:49, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Always use full name of album. Never refer to it as simply "Folie".
  • "the more negative ones" → "negative reviews"
  • "In March 2008, the band... However, the band..." - repetitive prose.
  • "This led to having more material to shift through"
  • "Various rumors that circulated on the Internet varied from the album consisting entirely of acoustic folk to rap-rock" - Ungrammatical.
  • "However, the sessions were not without difficulty." - easier to simply say "However, the sessions were difficult."
  • "while his other styles were inspired by Metallica, Prince, and the Rolling Stones." - band is called "The Rolling Stones", not "Rolling Stones".
  • "'Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet' is an example of the album's theme of contrasting moods, and 'struts in on a massive drum line and crunching, processed guitars, gets amplified by a four-piece horn section, then falls away to a simple, somber piano line.'" - according to whom?
  • Normally, ellipses are not used in the beginning of quotations.
  • "Stump tagged Folie à Deux a 'message record'" - missing word "as"?
  • "with Stump explaining" - clumsy wording. Try "as Stump explained"
  • Second paragraph of the Lyrics section is a WP:QUOTEFARM. Consider paraphrasing some quotations.
  • Redundant words in phrases: "Wentz contacted Chueh personally" and "and posted them to the band's official website."
  • "a blog post of a press release was made on the band's page officially announcing Folie à Deux" → "a blog post of a press release was made on the band's page; it announced Folie à Deux"
  • There should not be spaces around an em-dash (—).
Not done. There are multiple instances throughout the article. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 10:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • "that the early November was in doubt, citing concerns over the planned election day tie-in." - The early November what? The early November date?
 Done, yes I meant to say the date haha
  • " Fall Out Boy released several songs on iTunes before the release of Folie à Deux, which, when purchased, would go towards purchasing the entire album as part of the "Complete My Album" feature. " - ? Re-write in proper grammar because I do not know what this means. What is "which" referring to?
It is supposed to refer to the songs that were purchased. I reworded it
  • "thereafter" → "after"
  • "'I Don't Care' was followed a month later by the digital release of 'Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet' on October 7, 2008."
  • "and compared it to labelmates" - why is "labelmates" plural?
  • How can a tour be a commentary? Clarify?
Manual of style
  • Numbers above nine should be written as numerals. So watch out throughout the article, especially in the Reception section.
I took care of this one.
Citation formatting
  • Web-only refs like "MTV News", "AbsolutePunk", "A.V. Club" and "" are not italicized. Magazines and newspapers like Billboard and The Observer are.
  • All newspapers must use the {{cite news}} template if you are using citation templates. In other words, the publisher for newspaper refs must be in parentheses.
  • It is the opposite for web-only refs, like MTV News. So do not have "MTV News (Viacom)". Instead, go with "MTV News. Viacom." Same with The AV Club and AbsolutePunk and other web-exclusive sources.
 Done with all three of these. Basilisk4u (talk) 02:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Not done. MTV and MTV News should not be italicized. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I have fixed the MTV News ones now. Basilisk4u (talk) 04:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Be consistent for magazine references (Billboard, Rolling Stone, etc.) on whether the publisher is in parentheses or not.
I changed it so none of them are in parentheses. How is it looking now? Basilisk4u (talk) 02:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Watch for double periods such as FN 22.
I'm sorry, I am a bit confused. What do you mean by this? Basilisk4u (talk) 02:52, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
It's been fixed. Nevermind. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 10:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • "Deciding to postpone the album release in a season in which A-list artists" - "A-list" is a POV term.
  • "Folie à Deux did not perform as well commercially as its predecessor, Infinity on High." - This is personal interpretation of level of success. Success could mean total sales, or highest chart position, or anything really.
I see what you mean, but it is a fact that Folie à Deux reached number eight on the Billboard 200, while Infinity on High reached number one. Also, Folie à Deux went only Gold while Infinity on High went Platinum. I am not sure how to express this in the article. Basilisk4u (talk) 02:52, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
  • "Internationally, the album was also less widely successful than Infinity on High" - similar thing here. Also there is bias because of the word "Internationally", which refers to anything outside the United States. Say "Outside the US" instead.
  • "Wentz wrote furiously on his blog" - "Furiously" is too much. How about "angrily" or "in frustration".
  • The image in the Background section has an irrelevant caption to the section's topic.
Added a little more info in the caption Basilisk4u (talk) 02:52, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

The article is on hold for seven days, during which you will have to respond to the issues above for this article to pass. Good luck! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 20:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Day 7 is up. It appears as all my concerns have been addressed, and one has been responded to on the nominator's talk page. I am listing this article as a GA. Congratulations and this review is closed. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)