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Novel list[edit]

I added an incomplete list of novels to the page. I got it from my very old (1995-97) Forgotten Realms webpage, which has been offline for a long time (if someone wants to pick up the project, let me know, I have lots of archives). Feel free to move the novels list to another place. I also have the author names for all the books listed. Sdibb 04:37, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Geography[edit]

The Faerûn page now includes a fairly complete high-level overview of the geography of the continent. — RJH 18:54, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • Isn't Icewind Dale part of this setting also?
    • Yes it is. I have no idea which of the numerous FR articles mentions it, though (Faerûn? Toril? list of FR computer games?). The various 'top-level' FR pages could and should be merged together. -Sean Curtin 03:20, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

Where would someone find a map of the Other Continents other than Fearun? I would like to have a map of Maztica.Solon Olrek 17:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I noticed in the Geography section on this page there is an internal link to the Great Wheel. However, this article redirects to Great Beijing Wheel. Was there an article on the Great Wheel cosmology before or has it moved at all? --RMPink (talk) 17:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Updating[edit]

I've started to fill out and add to the FR pages. Darkhold, Crown Wars, Illefarn, and Daggerford. I'd love some feedback.--RYard 17:30, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikiproject[edit]

With a lack of a template I put the link to the WikiProject at the top of this page in italics so that it can be accessed more easily. -Erolos 16:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

There is a template Template:Forgotten Realms project. Poulsen 16:11, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Cosmology[edit]

The section somebody just wrote about the change to the FR cosmology in 3E seems quite POV to me, he/she is clearly one of the people who doesnt like the change. The section needs to be reworked to sound more neutral, or include references to claims that many players dont use it etc, else it should be removed as it seems to stick out somewhat. -- Lewis 15:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I fixed this problem in the rework to the best of my ability. -- Lewis 02:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Rework[edit]

I've tried to rework this article in to a more encyclopedic one. I'm not a complete expert on the Forgotten Realms, I've just used what I could find, so there is a lot of room for extra stuff still to be added or redone. Hopefully this will inspire people to help improve the article. -- Lewis 17:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed entry regarding "Gond." Such is written in an inappropriate context for Wikipedia, and should be included under a separate entry, not mashed in with the rest of the deities. Maelstrom58 00:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)maelstrom58

Another image[edit]

NonFreeImageRemoved.svg I uploaded an image from the WotC website, which I now realize I can't use since Wikipedia policy prohibits copyrighted images to be used in templates, even when it's fair use. I'm putting it here for a while in the meantime, just to keep the orphan bot from eating it... --Maggu 10:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Since two of these (almost identical) images now exist, we should be responsible and nominate one for deletion. -- Lewis 12:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I've switched to using this new image as its better tagged and ill nominate the older one. -- Lewis 15:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Novels and computer games[edit]

Someone has expanded the list of computer games. The purpose of the list was to show the most notable/important ones, not every FR game, which is given in the Main Article link. I propose we pick the 4-5 most important and give a summary description for each and ditch the others. The same goes for novels. For example these?:

  1. Pool of Radiance - the first one
  2. Neverwinters Nights - orginal one - first graphical MMORPG
  3. Baldur's Gate - v popular
  4. Neverwinter nights - v recent/popular/morpg

-- Lewis 14:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I went and reduced the list to these four, feel free to improve the summary descriptions I gave or substitute them for games you think are more notable/important to the Forgotten Realms, but I think this list shouldn't be longer than 4-5 entries. -- Lewis 02:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Demon Stone is not a role playing game! It's an action game (a fighter, really) set in the Forgotten Realms world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.198.224.77 (talkcontribs).

dagnabbit redirect?[edit]

Why does "dagnabbit" redirect here? Ben Tibbetts 02:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dagnabbit. --Muchness 12:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you; sorry. Ben Tibbetts 19:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Character Pole[edit]

I would like to see what other people's favorite characters from all of the Forgotten Realms books are. (Discussion on why HIGHLY encouraged.) Solon Olrek 18:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

My favorite character would have to be Drizzt Do'Urden. I'm not sure if part of it is because he was the first Forgotten Realms character I was introduced to, but he also has a very good story to him. He started out in life in a horrible environment, but he didn't succumb to the darkness around him, but left it behind in search of a brighter future. He faced paramounts of persecution on his journey, and ended up traveling an unbeleivable distance to finally come to a place where he was free of his past and around people he considered to be family. Not to mention he is just plain AWSOME! Solon Olrek 17:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Goals for page[edit]

Eventually, as improvement for the book entries progresses, much of the content about the Campaign Setting books will be relocated to the existing Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting page, and this page will lose the D&D Books template. Serpent's Choice 06:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

What content exactly? The FR is a collection of all the books published about it, I think it would be unwise to remove any information from this article at all. The books template yes, as this article isnt about a specific book, but it should include the history of what material has been published. Lewis 07:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
There is quite a bit more that can and should be added to the article: discussion of real-world inspiration for campaign features, discussions of the geography redesign for 3E, information about how the TSR to WotC handoff affected the campaign setting. In an effort to ensure the article size is manageable, all I'm suggesting is that the next refactoring will probably result in a Main article: Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting line, much akin to the existing ones for video games and geography. Serpent's Choice 07:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes there's definatley more to be added to this article as you say. It would be a good idea to add a main article line directing to the FRCS article in the section about product history, but no material needs to be removed from that section at this time. This main FR article should talk about the setting as a whole while the FRCS article should just talk about the line of campaign setting books, which they do, so I dont see any need for changes at the moment, although I think I'll add in the main article link as you suggest. Lewis 12:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've actually put it in as a see also at the end of the history section, since that section doesnt just talk about the campaign setting books. Lewis 12:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

What am I missing?[edit]

I have read the series of R.A.Salvatore several times, from Homeland and The Canticle through The Two Swords and on to Promise of the Witch King. Each time I reach this point I know I've missed some content, some book. Promise continues the adventures of Jarlaxle and Artemis Entreri presumably from the Servant of the Shard ending, and yet there are characters and inferences to other material between these two novels. For example, Entreri's personal battle of owning the jeweled dagger that steals the very life essence of its victim. His skin now holds a grey hue from having used the dagger on a Shade. Which text is this in? Athrogate is commissioned to follow the drow and human duo to Bloodstone Village, and speaks as if he is well aware of the prowess of our protagonists from experience. Jarlaxle, and Entreri by association, are now in the employ of two dragon sisters, Ilnezhara and Tazmikella, and yet I feel as if their current relationship could not have been thrown at readers assuming they will take the current situation for given, there needs to be some history that I am lacking. Please tell me the title of the novel I am missing, I presume containing Jarlaxle and Entreri's dealings with the town of Heliogabalus and the reason The Promise begins with the pair exploring the tower of Zhengyi. I apologize for my ignorance and thank you in advance for any fruitful response.

66.177.111.198 02:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)CMW

The one thing I've always wondered is who forgot them? The use of the New World to mean the Americas clearly says something about the viewpoint of the people to whom the New World was new. Who though forgot the Forgotten Realms?--Nickpheas 18:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

We did, those of us living on Earth. Powers T 17:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting[edit]

I don't see how the book about the setting is notable enough in and of itself to warrant a separate article. Surely it can be described adequately here. Hairy Dude 22:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I would tend to agree, maybe it is not notable enough in its own right. However the Forgotten Realms is more than what is described in that single/series book, and I don't really think the information contained in that article would be usefully placed here, or anywhere in fact. I think the whole line of articles that describe the irrelevant details of individual sourcebooks are somewhat pointless so I do not support the merging or these two articles.
I would prefer the other article deleted entirely, but there appears to be support for this aforementioned line of rulebook articles if the existence of the template at the bottom of each of the pages is anything to go by. --Lewis 19:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
'I am also opposed to the merger of these two articles'. The Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting article is about a role playing book (of the same name) and the Forgotten Realms article is about the campaign setting itself. The Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting article should be confined entirely to the book (and should not refer to anything not contained within it).
The Forgotten Realms article should discuss the campaign setting as a whole (and therefore should only cover the role playing book called Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting in passing). The Forgotten Realms article should be covering all of the role playing products, the novels and computer games (most of which have nothing to do with this book).
Merger of Forgotten Realms articles should be left to the Forgotten Realms WikiProject or the Dungeons and Dragons Wikiproject as both of those projects understand what this article is about and how it relates to ones with similar (but not identical) subjects. Big Mac 22:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
No merge. I agree with Big Mac.--Robbstrd 21:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


Do not Merge There appears to me to be enough encyclopedic information in article Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting specifically about the products of this name, the different version and what is included in each that is too detailed to be placed in the main Forgotten Realms article here. FR Campaign setting should be a subarticle going into more detail on a topic that is summarised in FR main article. Both need a lot of work and probably some shuffling and consolidation between each other, but they do not need a merge. - Waza 11:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for the last message left on this page by my acount. My brother decided to cause some mischeif amoung the articles I was watching and even preceded to change a few I was not. Anyway, about the current issue. I think that there should be a few links to the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and that it should be left at that. This way, it doesn't clutter up the Forgotten Realms article, yet it isn't deleted, therefor provided interested readers the information they desire, should they follow the link that is.Solon Olrek 20:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with a merger. Every WotC roleplaying product has it's own page with a very brief description of the contents of the book with things that wouldn't belong on a pages like this one, i.e. notes about errata corrections, trivial information about when it was written, who wrote it, or other circumstances related to publishing and or rules but not the fictional aspect. --Rezanow 17:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Do Not Merge but there is urgent work to be done on Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting to differentiate it from this article - an intro paragraph would be an excellent start. BreathingMeat 20:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Since there appears to be a consensus that the articles shouldn't be merged I'm removing the merge tag. Lewis 22:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

criticism[edit]

it seems that Richard Baker has been under some criticism about the changes proposed in conjunction with 4th edition D&D towards Forgotten Realms.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?&p=14002775&postcount=19

should any of this be included on this page since he himself had to include mention of it in his own blog as a game designer?

shadzar|Talk|contribs 15:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't really see the need. Wikipedia isn't a play by play commentary on every little ever said about something and every little nit picking thing some fans may have about a subject. If we did that we'd end up with monstrous articles on any subject that related to the internet at all because there is always someone complaining about something. If a game magazine picks up the criticism in any great detail then it might be worth mentioning.--Crossmr 16:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Dagnabbit[edit]

Dagnabbit redirects here. I searched for it looking for info on the mild oath, and apparently, after checking history, it's the son of someone from forgotten realms. However, dagnabbit isn't actually MENTIONED on the page, thus, it's a very confusing redirect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.87.59.8 (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Forgotten Realms project[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Forgotten Realms has been inactive for quite a while; most of the associated articles are flagged for cleanup, and may actually fail the inclusion criteria. For a proposal how to deal with this situation consistently, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Forgotten Realms/Closure. Comments are welcome. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Good Article?[edit]

Hey there. :) In our recent push to get D&D articles up to Good Article status, we have been successful with Gary Gygax and Wizards of the Coast. My original intention was to move immediately on to Dragonlance and then Forgotten Realms. However, looking at both of them (and Drow, the only other article in the 0.7 CD selection), I realize that they are both hardly referenced at all, and even then are referenced mostly to primary sources. I know that they both have as much potential to get to GA as the EGG and WotC articles, but due to lack of sourcing and relying on in-universe info, they are both a long way off.

What we need are reliable sources, with which to source the info in these articles. If you have a book or magazine or something and can do the sourcing work yourself, then great. If you can point me to a website, then I can do the work. We need creator interviews, product reviews, publishing and sales information for the product lines, etc. Feel free to discuss here, or on the WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons talk page. :) BOZ (talk) 20:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Focus[edit]

We should only have one of the logos, to meet the "minimum use" requirement for non-free images. Which should be kept? -Drilnoth (talk) 23:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I always liked the original. ;) If they are using the same one in 4E that they used in 3E, I guess we can use that one, otherwise I prefer the 1E/2E logo. BOZ (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I think that the original is better, too. -Drilnoth (talk) 23:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Ooh... I really need to go back and get this one day! BOZ (talk) 19:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it's probably up to a B now, or at least close. We're on the right track to getting it to GA. After I work on a few more deity pub histories, I'll have a look at some of the in-universe parts. We're badly in need of some creator interviews or something, which I think are probably easier to obtain than we're making it out to be. ;) Although it's a primary source, when I was working on Forgotten Realms Adventures yesterday, I noted that Jeff Grubb's introduction had a few paragraphs on the creation of the setting and its transition to official game world, so I tossed those references in. BOZ (talk) 19:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll look for some sources for the in-universe stuff, too. I think that that section can pretty much rely on primary sources if there are enough secondary sources in the article as a whole. -Drilnoth (talk) 19:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
That's true, especially if at least half of the article focuses on the setting's development, production, sales & reception, and licensing. BOZ (talk) 19:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Reconstruction[edit]

Hoo, boy. In looking how we can rebuild this one, I'm looking at the lead first. Most of what's currently in the lead needs to get removed. Not necessarily removed from the article, but definitely removed from the lead. Maybe we could have a "conception" section (hey, see if Bilby is interested, after what he did with kender?) for a lot of that, but that's way too much background story for the article's overview/summary. After gutting the lead, we could cut it down to something like this, and rebuild it from there:

The Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) fantasy role-playing game, created by Canadian author and game designer Ed Greenwood. Commonly referred to by players and game designers alike as simply "The Realms", it is one of the most popular D&D settings, brought about largely due to the success of novels by authors such as R. A. Salvatore and numerous computer role-playing games such as Pool of Radiance, Baldur's Gate, and Neverwinter Nights. The primary focus of the setting is the continent of Faerûn, part of the fictional world of Abeir-Toril, an Earth-like planet with many real-world influences. The Forgotten Realms is currently one of only two campaign settings, along with Eberron, for which official Dungeons & Dragons publisher Wizards of the Coast is still creating new material.
According to the creators, the "Forgotten Realms" is the name of an imaginary fantasy world that exists somewhere beyond our own world. It is described as a world of strange lands, dangerous creatures, and mighty deities, where magic and seemingly supernatural phenomena are quite real. Ostensibly, once upon a time, our Earth and the world of the Forgotten Realms were somehow more closely connected. As time passed, we, the inhabitants of planet Earth, have mostly forgotten about the existence of that other world -- hence the term "Forgotten Realms".

The rest of the lead is mostly in-universe material that we could dump into another section for now to work on later. BOZ (talk) 20:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. -Drilnoth (talk) 20:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, you moved that to the same spot I was thinking of putting it. :) BOZ (talk) 21:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
As for the History section, I think the best thing to do here would be to reorganize it by edition, like I do with my deity/monster publication histories. :) First section would be a "pre-history", that is detailing when Ed was using it as a setting for writing stories, turning it into a setting for his D&D game, publishing articles in Dragon, and then selling the thing to TSR. Then we'd have a 1st edition section, which would talk about the grey box release and Darkwalker on Moonshae (official FR products, now), moving into the first set of Companions of the Hall novels, and the Gold Box games, and the beginning of the setting's popularity (I think a lot of people forget that the setting really got going in 1E). 2E came around shortly after that, and began with Forgotten Realms Adventures and the The Avatar Series and then the game exploded with a shitload of accessories, modules, and boxed sets, and many more novels and computer games licensed, culminating in Baldur's Gate. 3E starts with the new Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting hardcover (the previous two were boxed sets), going into products released for that edition, and getting into Neverwinter Nights. 4E would be as it is, taking us into today. 2E should almost certainly be the largest section, because that was the height of the setting (and the campaign setting craze in general). Right now, there aren't many products mentioned, perhaps largely because of the lack of 2E support Wikipedia has gotten in terms of articles about books. I've written a few lately and there were a few already and I'll probably do more later, so maybe we need a Category:Forgotten Realms books (or something else to clearly distinguish it from Category:Forgotten Realms novels, which would take boxed sets into account without being as vague as "products"). BOZ (talk) 20:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Sounds excellent! I've reworked the lead, and can take a look at the history section soon unless you want to (by "soon" I mean either in a few hours or tommorrow; I need to take a break for now). -Drilnoth (talk) 20:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Also, I've created the category and will populate it momentarily. -Drilnoth (talk) 20:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Good deal. :) I'm going to proofread/copyedit the history a bit, but I don't want to rework it yet because there's too much important stuff missing. ;) Have at it! BOZ (talk) 21:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'll start later/tomorrow. Also, I reverted the addition of "is one of two settings still actively supported...," with a reason in the edit summary. If you think it should really be in there, though, go right ahead. -Drilnoth (talk) 21:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Nope, bye-bye. ;) I just finished the proofread/copyedit the history thing. BOZ (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to use this site (bookmark it!) to help me get the product listings right... since there were so very few 1E products for FR, I'm going to list most of them. For 2E I'll have to be more selective. Will get to that in a few minutes. :) BOZ (talk) 00:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Bookmarked. Out of curiosity, do you know why the URL is "Home.flash.net"? -Drilnoth (talk) 00:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
No idea! BOZ (talk) 01:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, I added all the officially FR 1E products that I am aware of. Obviously, since we are talking about approximately a two-year span, there weren't many. But there you go! The few items that don't have articles probably should, but hey. You can mess around with that section if you like, while I toss up some of the 2E stuff. BOZ (talk) 01:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay. -Drilnoth (talk) 02:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm planning on working on this article some more in the near future. :) BOZ (talk) 04:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

No rush. I'll help you out once the Gen Con and Gary Gygax reviews slow down a little. -Drilnoth (talk) 12:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Second edition products[edit]

I put most of the gaming products up through 1993 into the article. I'm not sure what else needs to be mentioned, although I'm sure Faiths & Avatars is definitely one of them. Here is a list of what I did not include; anything you feel needs working in, go for it. :) BOZ (talk) 17:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Boxed Sets

  • 1104 The Ruins of Undermountain II: The Deep Levels (1994)
  • 1109 City of Splendors
  • 1111 Elminster’s Ecologies (1994)
  • 1120 Ruins of Zhentil Keep (1995)
  • 1121 Spellbound (1995)
  • 1142 The North
  • 1147 Arcane Age: Netheril: Empire of Magic (1996)
  • 1159 Lands of Intrigue (1997)
  • 9561 Empires of the Shining Sea (1998)

Accessories

  • 9430 Elves of Evermeet (1994)
  • 9475 The Seven Sisters (1995)
  • 9487 Giantcraft (1995)
  • 9491 Pages From the Mages (1995)
  • 9492 Wizards & Rogues of the Realms (1995)
  • 9509 Warriors & Priests of the Realms (1996)
  • 9547 Cult of the Dragon (1998)
  • 11316 Demihumans of the Realms (1999)
  • 11430 Secrets of the Magister (2000)
  • 2142 PG2 Player’s Guide to the Forgotten Realms Campaign (1993)
  • 9401 TM4 The City of Waterdeep Trail Map
  • 9402 TM5 Kara-Tur Trail Map
  • 1165 Arcane Age: Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves (1998)
  • 9558 Arcane Age: The Fall of Myth Drannor (1998)
  • 8442 The Forgotten Realms Atlas (1990)
  • 9410 Cormyr (1994)
  • 9465 Book of Lairs (1994)
  • 9474 The Moonsea (1995)
  • 9520 The Vilhon Reach
  • 9545 Prayers From the Faithful
  • 9575 The City of Ravens Bluff (1998)
  • 9589 Calimport (1998)
  • 11348 Skullport (1999)
  • 11393 Sea of Fallen Stars (1999)
  • 11509 Drizz't Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark (1999)
  • 11627 Cloak & Dagger (2000)
  • 9525 Heroes’ Lorebook (1996)
  • 9552 Villains’ Lorebook (1998)
  • 9516 Faiths & Avatars (1996)
  • 9563 Powers & Pantheons (1997)
  • 09585 Demihuman Deities (1998)
  • 9379 Volo’s Guide to Waterdeep (1992)
  • 9393 Volo's Guide to the North (1993)
  • 9460 Volo’s Guide to the Sword Coast (1994)
  • 9486 Volo’s Guide to Cormyr
  • 9524 Volo’s Guide to the Dalelands (1996)
  • 9535 Volo’s Guide to All Things Magical (1996)
  • 11626 Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II (2000)
  • 9358 Aurora’s Whole Realms Catalogue (1992)
  • 9489 Elminster’s Ecologies Appendix I (1995)
  • 9490 Elminster’s Ecologies Appendix II (1995)
  • 2104 MC3 Monstrous Compendium
  • 2125 MC11 Monstrous Compendium (1991)

Adventures

  • 9484 The Sword of the Dales (1995)
  • 9485 The Secret of Spiderhaunt (1995)
  • 9488 The Return of Randal Morn (1995)
  • 9519 Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain: The Lost Level
  • 9528 Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain: Maddgoth's Castle (1996)
  • 9538 Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain: Stardock (1996)
  • 9562 Dungeon Crawl: Hellgate Keep (1998)
  • 11622 Dungeon Crawl: The Dungeon of Death (2000)
  • 9531 Four From Cormyr (1997)
  • 9540 Arcane Age: How the Mighty Are Fallen (1996)
  • 9544 Castle Spulzeer (1997)
  • 9574 For Duty & Deity (1998)
  • 9590 Kidnapped (1998)
  • 11337 The Accursed Tower (1999)
  • 11405 Wyrmskull Throne (1999)
  • 9444 Marco Volo Departure (1994)
  • 9450 Marco Volo Journey (1994)
  • 9455 Marco Volo Arrival (1994)
Thanks! I'll see what I can do. -Drilnoth (talk) 20:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to add articles for a few of the current redlinks, as well. I'll remove those which I'm definitely not going to write. Some, if you don't mind, may remain for a little while until I decide whether or not to deal with them. :) BOZ (talk) 20:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, if it's a redlink, then I own it and may or may not create an article in the near future. :) If I decide not to, I'll remove the link. Otherwise, carte blanche for all on the article. ;) BOZ (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest adding a little more information about the publication of maps for FR. In addition to the maps in the accessory boxes and campaign setting publications, the following were notable:
  • Fonstad, Karen Wynn (1990). The Forgotten Realms Atlas. TSR. ISBN 0880388579. 8442.  Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  • ProFantasy Software Ltd (1999). Forgotten Realms: Interactive Atlas (CD ROM). TSR. ASIN B00002EIWT. 11451. 
Not sure if there is a source that discusses the map making for these publications. Thanks.—RJH (talk) 21:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't know! The Forgotten Realms Atlas has its own article though, which discusses both. BOZ (talk) 00:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Origin Story[edit]

As i recall from the second edition's campaign guide, Ed Greenwood said that the title "Forgotten Realms" came from the fact that the origins of most of the setting were found as several years' worth of idea scraps in a drawer at TSR, and given to him (Greenwood) as a project to be converted into a new setting. Having played in first edition, i do not believe that the setting existed before second that i know of. Anyway, the idea was that all these ideas had been forgotten in this drawer until someone found them one day, hence they became the "Forgotten Realms". The book in question belonged to a very dear friend of mine whom i do not currently have ready access to, as he lives several states away, can anyone independently verify this as i wait for his answer? dunerat (talk) 02:56, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

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