Talk:French Revolutionary Wars

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wouldn't the duke of wellington count as one of the commanders in the french revolutionary wars? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


Look guys, this really isn't the place for an extended discussion of the Battle of Waterloo, of all things. I've archived the discussion, which at this point has absolutely nothing to do with the content of this article. john k 04:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


Could someone put some casualties figures? Even if they're rough estimates. Pretty please?

-G —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Other nation involved[edit]

I think usa was involved with the french piracy war and haitian rebels in Haiti war of independance.

You know I was just gonna mention how the US fought France at the revolutionary level. However, as the war proceeded to the Napoleonic level, it joined France as an ally again in the war of 1812. So in fact, US participation changes over time and its difficult to sya whether it was an ally or enemy of France. Tourskin 19:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I would leave the them out. The "Quasi-War," besides being undeclared, was kind of its own little thing; at no point was the U.S. fighting alongside Britain, Holland, Spain, et al - nor was it interested (as all of France's other enemies were) in seeing the French Republic abolished and the Bourbons restored. Also, I would not exactly say that the U.S. became an ally of Napoleon later on. While they both were fighting the British from 1812-15, they were doing so independently of each other. The main goal of the U.S. government during the whole time was to remain neutral, and have its rights as a non-belligerent respected by both sides.
As for Haiti, that's probably best treated as its own separate issue, too. The Haitian slaves rose up in 1791, but did not then demand independence - just freedom from slavery. France abolished slavery there in 1793 and then the French and Haitians were pretty much on the same page for awhile. The actual Haitian war of independence took place in 1802-03, just after the French Revolutionary Wars ended. Funnyhat 05:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The War of 1812 isn't part of the Napoleonic Wars because it had nothing to do with Napoleon, other than the fact that it was contemporaneous to his own war with Britain. On the other hand, the article "French Revolutionary Wars" are about all of the combatants against the French Republic, which included the United States. Thus, I added the U.S. as a combatant. -- LightSpectra (talk) 21:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

François Mignet[edit]

Ye gods there are a lot of François Mignet excerpts in the context section. Can someone write some original content there? Not that there's anything wrong with quotations, obviously, but it seems a bit unbalanced. Shinyplasticbag 02:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

New territory for me this.. but I've created a WikiQuote link and maybe, you never know, I'll eventually shift some of the quoted material across there. Watch this space... Scoop100 20:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Flag icons[edit]

Austrian bi-color incorrect for Holy Roman Empire period when Imperial Standard is used.Tttom1 (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Figures and Factions[edit]

Why not include the Jacobins on the tab "Other important figures and factions"? Where are Marat, Robespierre and others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

That is indeed bizarre. That whole template is weird - "Opposition military leaders" doesn't include Nelson, for instance. john k (talk) 16:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Start of the wars[edit]

The section of the beginning of wars is misleading on one count and wrong on another. It is wrong because it states that the war started 'as a consequence' of the Brunswick Manifesto. But the Brunswick manifesto, as the dates make clear, was written several months after the start of the war (in fact, it was written after a series of French defeats). It is misleading because it portrays the other countries of Europe as leading an aggressive policy of war against France for ideological reasons. This ignores the influence of the Girondins in France, who spent most of the previous two years advocating war with Austria for political reasons. In order to create a balanced account, I'd suggest cutting down the bit on ideology amongst other states and inserting stuff on the Girondins? Mfsxfba2 (talk) 11:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Discussion on major conflict infobox[edit]

A discussion on a major conflict infobox is taking place at Template talk:WW2InfoBox#Allies.. All input welcome. Thank you. walk victor falk talk 07:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

"Total casualties"[edit]

The figures of 1.5–3 million total casualties seem to be drawn from the Napoleonic Wars, and not the Republic/Directory years to which this article is addressed. See Cummins, The War Chronicles and this survey at Necrometics. SteveStrummer (talk) 21:07, 14 June 2014 (UTC) .

We could use the Cummins numbers if there's consensus. Ruddah (talk) 19:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Saint-Domingue (Haiti)[edit]

The infobox had said "Haitian rebels (1791-1804)" on the side of forces against France. This is incorrect on two points: first, the colony was called Saint-Domingue at this time. Second, the rebels only fought against France from 1791-94. When slavery was abolished in 1794, Toussaint switched sides and allied himself with France. I'm correcting this. (talk) 02:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC) 1