Talk:French battleship Lorraine

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No Free French service

Edited as per [[1]] PpPachy 21:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Free French

According to the Bretagne Class Battleship page it served with the Free French Navy. It did serve with the Free French Navy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.147.211 (talk) 18:47, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photographs

@Parsecboy: the author of the 1916 photograph is Amédée Eywinger (wikidata:Q111836593), who died in 1948. I corrected the licence accordingly on Commons.

The two other photographs (c:File:3Fi007-026 - BREST - ENTREE DE L'ARSENAL.jpg and c:File:Battleship Lorraine.jpg) are anonymous works, published in Europe more than 70 years ago. Therefore, the owners of these photographs (archives municipales et communautaires de Brest and Drachinifel) can claim these images under a CC-BY-SA licence.

If you think that these images have an invalid copyright status, you should request their removal on Commons, rather than refusing to use them. -- Le Petit Chat (talk) 12:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit that the copyright status of File:3Fi007-026 - BREST - ENTREE DE L'ARSENAL.jpg is not clear, as I cannot find any indication that the archives municipales et communautaires de Brest have published it under a CC-BY-SA licence. However, G. Artaud is not the author but the publisher (éditeur in French). Le Petit Chat (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We still need a date of publication for the 1916 photo to determine the copyright status in the US. Images hosted on Commons (and used en.wiki) need to be PD or validly licensed in the country of origin and the US because of where the servers are located.

No, nobody can claim to hold the copyright - the term for that is copyfraud. Just because a photo has ended up in a museum collection does not mean that ownership of the image has passed to the museum; the creator has to explicitly transfer the rights. And Drach has zero ability to license anything, because he didn't create the photo.

Gabriel Artaud is the photographer and the publisher - he worked in Nantes, producing postcards of various things. And as far as I can tell, he died in 1966. Parsecboy (talk) 14:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. -- Le Petit Chat (talk) 21:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Metric tons"?

Why use this American name in an article about a French vessel? Grassynoel (talk) 14:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because French is not a national variety of English, so there is no strong national tie to any version of English. So whoever wrote the article decides what version to use. It's why Japanese battleship Yamato uses Canadian English, SMS Derfflinger uses American English, and the Danish Herluf Trolle-class coastal defence ship uses British spellings. Editors should not change the variety without good reason (i.e., unless there are strong ties to one variety or another). Parsecboy (talk) 14:45, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]