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Accuracy Disputed[edit]

Many sources such as wookiepedia and the star wars databank indicate an age of approx 25000 years, not one thousand.

It is improper for an encyclopedia to speculate about which officials hold particular roles relative to modern real states.

The founding of the Republic is largely mythical and very little is clearly spelled out. Some of the various primary sources and references are in fact contradictory themselves.

This article appears to only think of the Ruusan Reformation as the founding of the Republic, thus ignoring 24,000 years of history. At times the Republic did in ancient times have a fleet, army, starfighter corps, etc, but not during the time immediately before the Clone Wars.

Jar-Jar Binks is at one time referred to by the title "Representative" in film dialogue and appears to have the ability to act within the Senate. This may mean he was able to represent his senator, or it may be that there are "Representatives" sitting within the Senate in addition to the 1024 known senators. Amidala was Senator of Naboo, was Jar-Jar a "representative" of her? of Naboo? or of the Gungans? This is just one example of the many great unkown factors about the Republic, its founding, history, and system.

It is IMPERATIVE that this article be subjected to fact checking. There is a deplorable lack of source citations within the article and far too few references at its end. Both primary sources (which according to LucasArts follows a hierarchy whereby the films themselves rank first, followed by the screenplays, novels, and other film adaptations second, followed by the various novels third, through to the various comics and graphic novels, technical guides, etc., while some things are not even considered "canon" at all) and secondary sources such as the Star Wars Databank are much needed.

As is this article is more speculation than fact, more original research than verified through sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.133.50.51 (talk) 20:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


"With the signing of the Galactic Constitution on Coruscant more than 25,000 years ago, the Republic was born. Though history often recalls the Republic as an idyllic utopia, a less biased examination reveals numerous galactic conflicts -- such as the Hundred-Year Darkness, the Great Droid Rebellion and the Vultar Cataclysm -- throughout its reign." Galactic Republic

Galactic Republic on Wookieepedia Wookieepedia isn't perfect, and is far from what a Wikipedia article on this should look like, but at least an effort was made to be accurate. It is hard to understand how someone made up the content of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.133.50.51 (talk) 20:27, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


Generally speaking this article is a reasonable treatment of the Republic post-Ruusan, but that is only 1,000 out of the 25,000 years of the history of the Republic. To put that in perspective, that would be like an article on the United States of America only dealing with things since the year 2000. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.133.50.51 (talk) 20:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Number of Systems[edit]

What is the source for the claim that the Republic contained a million systems?

"InterGalactic Supreme Courts of Justice"=[edit]

Is that seriously the name of the Republic's Supreme Court? That sounds suspicious to me. Can anyone confirm it?Kuralyov 20:30, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, the Republic's judicial branch is called the Supreme Court in Episode II. -- Ed Telerionus 30 June 2005 17:23 (UTC)

The Completely Unofficial Star Wars Encyclopedia ( http://www1.theforce.net/cuswe/search.asp?search=Ruusan+Reformation ) defines the "Ruusan Reformation" as "the name given to the point in galactic history, a thousand years before the onset of the Clone Wars, when the Republic Measures and Standards Bureau reset the galactic calendar. The outcome of the Reformation produced one of the most accurate depictions of galactic time known to the Old Republic." It doesn't mention anything about the Republic having to be rebuilt from the ground up.

The symbol there is not the symbol of the Republic. It was of the clone army and later was used for the Imperial Navy. The actual symbol was a tri-line figure.- B-101 23:33, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Actually, it is the Galactic Republic symbol.

The other symbol you are thinking of is the symbol for the Senate and the office of Supreme Chancellor.


The use of Leia as an example of young office holders doesn't work - she was Senator of Alderaan under the Empire not the Republic. PMA 17:48, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Democracy?[edit]

I'm not all that much into the system behind the Republic here, but from what I can see in canon sources, it's not very democratic. I'd like to see someone explain this;

  • A princess (Amidala), representing only a portion of her planet.
  • The trade federation.
  • A single planet, Coruscant, with much more power than the other planets.
  • An obvious difference between inner and outer plants as far as representation goes.

Maybe some sources from Lucasarts explain this as democratic but I really think it qualifies as a federal republic. So, how does the GalRep qualify as democratic?

I know it's only a movie and all, but it sets a bad example if we simply take these things for granted, calling it a democracy when it appears to be something else.

It is a federal republic (thus the name Galactic republic). The term democracy is often used to describe federal republics (like in the US today). --Ctachme 21:01, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yes, it is a democracy. Padme Amidala was elected to be the ruler of the humans of Naboo (also referred to as The Naboo), and as senator (also elected) probably represented the Gungans as well (Jar-jar was her assistant). One must also remember that the Republic Senate has become largely corrupt by the time of the movies. As for representation, core worlds such as Coruscant have a much larger population than those like Dantooine. -Xol 03:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it the other way around? They seem to lack a lower chamber, being unicameral with just a senate. If each senator gets one vote (not adjusted for population) it would give small systems tremendous power compared to large ones like Coruscant. The point of a bicameral system is to strike a balance between the two. On the other hand, the Republic may not have been involved with the kind of law that would be decided based on population. --GSchjetne (talk) 11:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

We should merge this article with the articles New Republic (Star Wars), Imperial Remnant, and Galactic Federation of Free Alliances -- John-110V Ed Telerionus 14:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Why? They're all different, and those other articles all seem pretty substantive, worthy enough of their own page. Kuralyov 17:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Chancellor's role[edit]

Is the Chancellor really a head of state? Going form only what is shown in the movies, it looks like he has merely the powers of a head of government - for example, he is head of the legislature and is appointed by it, but has to be given special powers by an emergency act to become commander-in-chief. Kuralyov 14:14, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

There's no one else to be Head of State, so it's natural powers and ceremonial functions would devolve onto the Chancellorship. It seems as if many powers were originally held by the Senate, such as those we usually attribute to a head of state, but were ceded to Palpatine when he was consolidating his power. Though the state is Parliamentary, the Chancellor is the only person who possibly could be Head of State, so I think it is. Curufinwe 20:09, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

It's not strictly necessary to have a head of state in a nation. For example, the Roman Republic/Empire; neither did the French Republic until Napoleon came into power. Both the Roman Republic and Revolutionary France are bases for the Galactic Republic. Plus, in parliamentary systems, one of the main fucntions of a head of state is representation in other nations, and since the Republic is de facto the only givernment in the galaxy, that purpose would seme somewhat useless.Kuralyov 00:55, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I just saw Episode III, and from comments made by several of the characters there, it seems that the Galactic Senate holds both supreme legislative and executive power, and that the Chancellor is neither head of state or head of government (roles both held collectively by the Senate) but is merely the Senate's chief officer. Anyone else get that from the movie?Kuralyov 23:50, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I saw Episode III too, and I noticed the many mentions that the Senate had given the Chancellor 'executive power' which was seen as dangerous and unusual. I'm inclined to agree that the Chancellor didn't hold really any powers in normal times, and the Senate acted as a sort of 'working body' to borrow Lenin's term. Any non-movie examples we could use? Curufinwe 02:44, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Well the Senate is a 'working body', comprising both executive and legislative functions, the Chancellorship is compatible with the definition of Head of State, especially see the non-executive part. The Chancellor however, can not in normal times be considered a Head of Government. Curufinwe 20:49, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

He seems more like a prime minister —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.119.50 (talk) 02:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Trained by the Sith?[edit]

I had removed the assertion that the Clonetroopers were trained by the Sith (in reference to Order 66), this seems like just speculation, thus it has no place in the encyclopedia. While it's certainly possible that they were trained by the Sith it's also possible that they were trained by the Kaminoans, or Jango Fett to accept that order (the latter, at least, had no love for the Jedi). The former could have simply made a whole bunch of contingency plans: Order 64 could have been 'kill every senator' Order 65 could have been 'kill the chancellor' and Order 67 could have been 'kill all the humans' or something like that. My point is, it's not a fact that Order 66 came from the Sith. --Ctachme 21:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

I believe that the clone troopers were trained by Palpatine/[Palpatine|[Darth Sidious]] to respond to Order 66 issued by the Emperor and Commander-in-Chief of the Military to exterminate the Jedi. The article didn't say who trained them to respond to this command to exterminate the Jedi. --John-1107 28 June 2005 18:28 (UTC)

Chancellorship/Chancellory[edit]

which is the right term - I always thought that it would be Chancellorship in reference to the office while Chancellory would be the building where his offices, government staff etc were located c.f. Hitler's Reich Chancellory. PMA 05:02, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Why was it moved?[edit]

Why wasn't just Galactic Republic acceptable? It redirects here anyway, and there is no dablink. - Sikon 16:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I was just about to ask the same thing. --Kaizer13 22:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree, and have moved the article back to the article name without the disambiguation phrase. —Lowellian (reply) 03:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Name Change[edit]

I replaced Doman Beruss as Senator from Corellia with Garm Bel Iblis, as Doman Beruss was never the Senator from Corellia in the (Old) Republic Senate. By the time she replaced Bel Iblis as Senator from Corellia, it was the Imperial Senate, as the reason Bel Iblis stepped down was due to his being one of the three founders of the Rebel Alliance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.50.151.8 (talk) 10:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC).


Internal Execution of Legislation[edit]

Anybody else ever wonder how on earth the Republic held itself together for 25,000 years with nothing to enforce its laws? Seems a lot like the UN today, just with a special breed of UN peacekeepers wielding energy blades instead of assault rifles. The Jedi really don't seem like enough to keep this thing united. 152.23.196.162 23:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Formed 1000BBY? What about KOTOR?[edit]

I think KOTOR is set like 4000 years before the first Star Wars movie? The Republic was around then...right? So why does it say the Republic was formed 3000 years later? Seriphyn (talk) 22:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The Republic was actually created 25,000 years before Episode IV so i think the info needs to be changedMike i cool (talk) 21:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC) Mike i cool

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Image:Senate.jpg[edit]

Removed

A senator of the Trade Federation attempts to address the Senate.

as I do not think that the seal of the Romanian Senate is appropriate here. Although I could be wrong. --209.213.220.227 (talk) 14:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Order 66 Implanted in clones[edit]

After the death of Separatist leader General Grievous, and the discovery that Palpatine was actually Darth Sidious, the Jedi made their move in accordance with contingency plans already made. They attempted to arrest Palpatine, but failed. Shortly afterward, Palpatine secretly issued Order 66, a galaxy-wide instruction for all clone troops to kill their Jedi commanders. This command had been secretly implanted in all of the clones when they were created.

There are multiple resource that state that this was not true - that it was merely an order among hundreds of orders and contingencies. While there are multiple sources that debunk this, the one that comes to my mind (with out searching) is the talking of it in Dark lord, The rise of darth vader. There were clones that even resisted this order in that book. It was just an order that the commanders were aware of to carry out.