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Women in gang culture[edit]

I am currently attempting to bring attention to the presence of women in gang culture as part of a class project. In addition to the existence of girl gangs (which I am creating a separate article about), I aim to highlight the role of non-member women in gang life. Specifically, I will explore women’s involvement in gang-related criminal activities and use as “honey traps” (Taylor, 1993, https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/abstract.aspx?ID=147359). I will also include numbers on the incidence of domestic and sexual violence amongst women affiliated with gangs under the heading “Gang Violence.” I would like to add the women’s involvement section under the heading “Associates or Affiliates,” but I realize that group of subheadings is based around the work of O’Deane and I don’t want to detract from that. If anyone has any suggestions for a relevant caption or existing section I could make my additions under, or any suggestions for my work at all, I would greatly appreciate it.

Hhoover42 (talk) 20:41, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


Definition[edit]

I have placed this in the article: thought and comments?

I have played about with the first bit "A Gang" and added a "Street Gang" and "Organised Crime Group". Criminal Fraternities such as motorcycle clubs and skinheads whilst being referred to as a gang i think do not fall neatly under any definition on this page. I think the Motorcyce Clubs and Racist groups warrant a single page for each as they are much more distinguishable (whilst also being similar) from gangs. To keep it simple:

Motorcycle Clubs - members must own motorcycle Skin Heads/Neo-Nazis - Belief in White being the Superior Race

Street gangs such as Crips, Bloods, Nortenos, Surenos etc.. do not have any definers such as those above. Just about anyone living in the gang neighbourhood can be initiated no matter what their beliefs and possesions are. They do not need anything specific to be a part of the gang and excluding the initiation there is very little they need to do. (although many are ethnically homogenous it is argued this reflects more on social demographics than anything else)

There is no agreed upon definition for a gang, or street gang at least. There are hundreds of definitions that have been debated ever since Thrasher (1927) defined the 1313 gangs he observed in Chicago.

There is little, if any, consensus as to what constitutes a gang and who is a gang member, let alone what gangs do, either inside or outside the law (Ball & Curry, 1995; Decker & Kempf-Leonard, 1991; Gardner, 1993; Klein, 1969; Miller, 1975, 1980; Needle & Stapleton, 1983). When describing their conceptual and operational definitions, many contemporary gang researchers note the absence of definitional consensus.

Suggest to delete this section enclosed in brackets [The irony, of course, is that even the] “experts” cannot agree on what constitutes a gang or gang behavior, and many experts find fault with nearly every definition.

An article in the Journal of Contemporary Justice (Malcolm W. Klein "The Value of Comparisons in Street Gang Research", 2005) talks of a consensus definition developed over 5 years and agreed on by more than 100 gang research scholars in the United States and Europe. It is a minimalist definition specifically designed to enhance comparative street gang research.

“A street gang is any durable, streetoriented youth group whose own identity includes involvement in illegal activity.”

  • “Durable” is a bit ambiguous, but at least several months can be used as a guideline. Many gang-like groups come together and dissipate within a few months. The durability refers to the group, which continues despite turnover of members.
  • “Street-oriented” implies spending a lot of group time outside home, work, and school—often on streets, in malls, in parks, in cars, and so on.
  • “Youth” can be ambiguous. Most street gangs are more adolescent than adult, but some include members in their 20s and even 30s. Most have average ages in adolescence or early 20s.
  • “Illegal” generally means delinquent or criminal, not just bothersome.
  • “Identity” refers to the group, to the collective identity, not the individual self-image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.122.121 (talkcontribs) 17:57, March 2, 2007

WP:Spotlight[edit]

e·h·w·Stock post message.svg To-do:
  • History of gangs
  • Difference between gangs, paramilitaries, and organized crime
  • Economic impact
  • Famous and or infamous (depending on circumstances) acts committed by gangs

External links[edit]

World wide Gang List[edit]

I think there needs to be a list of gangs from say USA,Russia,New Zealand, Mexico and Australia. i think it would be good to have on this page it is just a case of someone finding the information and gang names. Does anyone else like my idea? and would someone be willing to create it? Mudak568 (talk) 02:41, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a long list in List of criminal enterprises, gangs and syndicates. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:08, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Military[edit]

I've noticed that you removed gangs in the US military. Even though I provided links and references to the gangs I added. King Cobras gang members were in the US Marines. http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/gangs_2.htm and http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1gqShQTSDCM watch @2:38 . The White power Skinheads have been in the US Army and the US Marines Corps. TJ Leyden is a former White power Skinhead, and he was in the Marines Corps. Also Malcolm Wright Jr, James N. Burmeister, and Timothy Mcveigh were gang members of the Skinheads, and they were in the US Army. Here are some links to White gangs in the US military. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/us-army-white-supremacists_n_1815137.html and http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2008/winter/killing-a-brown. Next time read the references provided before removing info. Also what made you think these gangs had no history in the US military? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiTrollTerminator (talkcontribs) 07:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

  • I primarily removed your senseless overlinking. Nobody is disputing that any of them have had members in the US military. However, this article isn't only about gangs in the US and there's no reason to add every instance you can find. You're being myopic. entries should have significance.Niteshift36 (talk) 21:03, 21 August 2014 (UTC)