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I like the original entry:
- Greatest striker in front of goal, never been booked. Mmm, isn't it! Not 'alf
- Aye, and had a big nose. Des Lynam's replacement on the BBC's Match of the Day program. Also an unfunny panelist on They Think Its All Over.
One less than Moore's record in what? Caps or goals?
Also, I think the claim that he has never been booked needs further investigation. Players tend to say things like that, though it's not unusual for a striker to go uncautioned for a long time, everyone will earn a card eventually :)
The record of never having been booked is well known. AFAIK he was actually booked once but succesfully appealled against it. The record part refers to goals.GordyB 13:31, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
He was actually replaced by Alan Smith, not Alan Shearer, in his final appearance for England. Alan Shearer has never played for Arsenal.
Having being a year ahead of Gary Lineker at the City of Leicester Boys School, what evidence is there for the part about him being a medical student? In 1976, at the time he would have been at Kings, he would have been 15, and wouldn't have taken his O or A levels. We'd have heard about that at school! GGA6 (talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
The tale about him being a medical student is not borne out by the only biography of him , which I consulted in Leicester Central Reference Library. I will change it later, and cite the source - why does it keep being added back? GGA6 (talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
There's a MySpace page http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=100823535 that repeats the medical school story, but it doesn't look particularly legit. Incidentally, if he was born in November 1960, he would almost certainly have taken his A-levels in 1979, by which time he was playing for the Leicester first team, so they look a bit iffy too. I'm ditching the King's College reference, and would query the A-levels. AuntFlo (talk) 11:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Here's the information from the printed biography Gary Lineker: Strikingly Different by Colin Malam, which is in the Leicester Central Reference Library Local Studies Collection. He got 4 O levels, and his school reports are quoted, saying he needed to work harder. He left school at 16, and to no-one's surprise, there is no mention of Kings College Medical School. Perhaps the other sites copying Wikipedia will take note. GGA6 (talk) 17:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
At the moment he's currentley living with his wife and two sons? Where are the other two? Petsco 12:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Tamsin: Question? How is it possible for Lineker to have been born in November 1960 and have been a medical student BEFORE joining Leicester City in 1976? He would have been only 15 at the start of the 1976-7 academic year!!!
Can somebody check the Everton stats. I'm fairly sure he didn't play 138 games in two seasons and I know for a fact he scored more than 25 goals. 22.214.171.124 18:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I found the info! It was 38 goals in 52 appearances. Someone just made the old stat up! 126.96.36.199 18:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- This may be over 5 years since those edits but to all statisticians Lineker scored 40 goals for Everton, clearly stat's (on this page atleast) do not show the Screen Sport Super Cup competition, which was a substitue for those clubs banned from European competitions. Although nowadays very meaningless, just like the latter Full Members Cup etc, but, nonetheless, part of the campaign that season. Babydoll9799 (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately it has to be corrected that Gary Lineker speaks Japanese. He might be able to speak a few words, but he is definitely not fluent.
It would be frankly amazing if he had in just two years achieved a level of proficiency in Japanese that could sensibly be called "fluent". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 08:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I am sure I remember Lineker recieving a yellow card in one his last club games for a badly timed tackle and the regret in which it was recieved as it was his only booking. I might be wrong - can anyone confirm or deny this?
- I think that was another player and also, happened relatively recently?.
I can confirm that the above incident happened to Alan Smith of Arsenal. He had never been booked in his whole career and then in the 92/93 cup final against Sheff Wed he picked up a booking.
Anyone think it's worth mentioning his appearance on the Paedogeddon special of Brasseye in 2001?
- Not really - if that should be mentioned anywhere, it's in the article or section which describes that programme/episode. I don't think it's really necessary to mention every single trivial little tv appearance here (imdb currently lists 53 appearances for Lineker has himself). Guinness (talk) 14:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The games listed are not Lineker's. They appear to be Bobby Charlton's, though why it counts 48 when he scored 49 is a bit confusing
- Either weird vandalism or a copy-and-paste where they forgot to actually edit. I've removed it. --Jameboy 00:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
First impression of looking at this article is how stupid the picture looks, could someone find an actual picture of lineker or just not have one at all. Simplyirresistiblepalmer (talk) 19:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
What is his DOB?
Is it 1960 or 1970? the opening paragraph says 1960, the infobar at the side says 1970.
"England's all-time second highest scorer"
missing info box
This poo thing
The latest attempt to insert the "poo on the pitch" incident included a RS: a blog at The Guardian. I don't think wording such as "He shit himself" [shouldn't that be "shat"?] is encyclopedic, and I don't think it should be given undue weight, but the sources are there and clearly the topic is coming up - it's getting inserted again and again. So I propose a single sentence be added using the wording "lost control of his bowels because of illness". Putting it here first so consensus can be reached either way. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:13, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
- Personally I think a single sentence about it isn't a big deal and Lineker has joked about it so it's not like it would violate any BLP issues. But here's what I don't understand--a couple months ago ESPN the magazine wrote an article about a triathlete named Julie Moss who's only claim to fame is that she collapsed near the end of a triathalon she was leading and shit herself a bunch of times. This was in 1982 and nationally televised in the US. People were vandalizing the page so I added a sourced statement that she collapsed and defecated herself. The sourced info was repeatedly removed as "not encyclopedic." So, if someone like her who's pretty much only known for shitting herself can't have that included in the article, I'd guess the Wikipedia police wouldn't approve of it being in Lineker's article either since he's known for a bunch of other things. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 18:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
“Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win."
"Get to Philosophy" Game
See earlier note on Everton stats, i've corrected that Lineker scored 40 goals for Everton not 38 due to goals scored in the Screen Sport Super Cup (for teams that did not play in Europe following the European ban in 1985). Babydoll9799 (talk) 18:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Lineker's been honoured with an OBE, but the only mention of it is with the postnominal in the lead. Can someone add at least a sentence about when he got it and what for? — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Edit suggestion. Replace this:
- In May 2012, Lineker stepped into an argument between Joey Barton and Alan Shearer via Twitter, as reported in the Daily Mirror.
There was a player who was removed from some game. Later, the player complained on twitter. At some point, Gary Lineker said something about the person complaining, also on twitter. The complainer then went on to threaten to insult Gary, still via twitter. This chat was reported in the fine upstanding Daily Mirror. Now, technically, that counts as WP:NOTEWORTHY, and as an inclusionist, I'm a bit leery of taking it out of wikipedia entirely... but can we not move it over to the article about the complainer, at least? All the piece contains is a single quote from Gary Lineker's twitter-feed:
"Still raging then? Still kicking out? And still, presumably, misunderstood? But only by yourself I suspect."
The rest of the article is quoting the poorly-spelled insults and vague insinuations from the complainer. There is no analysis, or similar. I'd also be happy with just marking this one down as WP:IAR, and yoinking the stuff. If the only thing that happened between Gary Lineker and Joey Barton (as reported in WP:RS that is) was this one exchange, of exactly one twit from Gary Lineker... that hardly seems worth mentioning, methinks. Is that the ONLY thing WP:NOTEWORTHY in 2012, folks?
See also WP:WELLKNOWN and WP:BLPGOSSIP, which suggest that unless there are multiple sources covering a long-running dispute, this sentence can go. Thanks for reading, and thanks for improving the 'pedia. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 05:20, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Emphasis in lede
Raudys has twice rewritten the lede, today more extensively than the first time, to emphasise Lineker's broadcasting career over his football career. It seems to me that he is better known for his achievements as a player, and in any event the article is more about his playing career and presents his broadcasting career as a later stage in his life. But I'd like input from others with more familiarity with his current reputation before reverting again. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- Raudys here. Gary Lineker has been the presenter for the most famous British football show (Match of the Day), watched by millions in the UK and around the world every week, for 15 years now. He is very well known for this in addition to his illustrious playing career. I don't see how that doesn't at least merit mentioning the fact that he is a current sportsbroadcaster in the opening sentence - i.e., Lineker is a former footballer and current sports broadcaster. Just because his "current reputation" rests more on something that happened years ago does not mean that he should forever be known only for what he did in the past. Raudys (talk) 16:31, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- Our article continues to emphasise his playing career at greater length - rightly, I think. To me it seems both recentism and a bit of a cheapening of his playing career to depict him as a broadcaster who was once a footballer. But the point about Match of the Day is a valid one. So I moved that up into the first para of the lede, which now says more than that he has worked for a bunch of broadcasters. And I updated the list with the NBC arm. But I still believe we have to list playing first. He's not in any broadcasting halls of fame, has not barely missed breaking records as a broadcaster, and some of his authority as a presenter comes from his very distinguished career. So how does it look now? And I'd still like to hear others' take on the issue. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Responding here to the edit summary suggesting I have removed his broadcasting career from the lede ... umm, no, I just don't think it should be presented as his main achievement. "former footballer and current broadcaster" strikes me as clunky, but it works. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)