Talk:Gaullism

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Dirigisme[edit]

What's a better English word than "dirigist" for a centrally-controlled economy? if that's whatdirigiste denotes? some wikification would help clear it up. This is a good entry. Can't believe it's new User:Wetman

Not exactly. Dirigisme does not imply central control, but central direction. De Gaulle never put into place a centrally-controlled economy; France under de Gaulle, as nowadays, was predominantly an economy of private capital. David.Monniaux 11:40, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Gaullism as betrayal[edit]

This entry is strictly from the Gaullist perspective. An American or an Israeli might define Gaullism as "A foreign policy predicated upon arrogance, narcissism, betrayal, pettiness, and irrational rage."

Funny... That sounds like current international opinion of US foreign policy. But it'll take a generation or two before this makes its way into any encyclopedia. - Michael (talk|

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I would keep one's personal opinions that are totally unsupported off the TP's and anyway this is for the discussion of Reliable Sources to improve the article, not for a rant HammerFilmFan (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

A perfect example might be de Gaulle's reaction to Nasser's 1967 blockade of the Straits of Tiran and promise of war. When France's then-ally Israel, sent its foreign minister to Paris to plead for support, de Gaulle merely thundered, "Fait pas la guerre!" -- which under the circumstances, was an obvious order to commit national suicide. De Gaulle immediately defected to the Arab side.

Another example might be the expulsion of Nato from France and the refusal to participate in the alliance, while demanding to remain within the alliance and retain access to its secrets.

Or the "all azimuths" missile targeting, which targeted the United States as well as Russia.

I've tried to reflect these points of view. David.Monniaux 09:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Wording[edit]

The following sentence is a little confusing; it sounds like cause/effect: "he now has a Europhile stance after famously denouncing Europeanism in the Call of Cochin." It sounds like as a result of denouncing Europeanism, he now has a Europhile stance. It probably should sound more like, "he now has a Europhile stance even after (or, depsite) famously denouncing Europeanism in the Call of Cochin." - Michael (talk|contrib)

Mitterrand[edit]

  • Even socialist president François Mitterrand, who denounced de Gaulle's way of ruling as a permanent coup d'état, was very intent on keeping the nuclear deterrent and asserting France's independence.

The fact that he agreed on these two points doesn't make him a Gaullist. These opinions are very natural for a Socialist anyway.--cloviz 14:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Pun intended?[edit]

As well as simply being named after Charles de Gaulle, does the word 'Gaullist' also have connotations of 'Gallic' as in 'Very very French'? Paul J Williams (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Just a coincidence HammerFilmFan (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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