Talk:Georg Cantor

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GEORG CANTOR WAS RUSSIAN[edit]

when Wikipedia becomes nothing more than a peddler of Encyclopedia Brittanica Pop knowledge - you might as well close shop - for those who created the Georg Cantor webpage - EB is NOT a reputable source - THINKING is - try to THINK before you undo my edits - obviously you struggle with this and just fall back on EB as your "source" of the golden noodle - that is like saying the Sunday Mirror is a news source OR any other cheap trash tabloid - the man was born in St. Petersburg - he is RUSSIAN and always will be Russian - stop trying to claim him for Germany - you say you are not concerned with nationalistic sentiments - FINE - leave it alone and stop undoing the CORRECTIONS - — Preceding unsigned comment added by DigiSequenceSystem (talkcontribs) 12:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

CENSORSHIP[edit]

you continue to deny FACTS in favor of sensational claims supported by the beacon of TRUTH - Encyclopedia Brittanica - block me - it ONLY shows you are weak and fail to accept the FACT that Cantor was RUSSIAN - repeated attempts to claim him for Germany are driven by your own nationalistic bias - it speaks volumes about the lack of integrity of your webpage being - you cannot censor TRUTH - any idiot except you of course can see the man was Russian - Germany is well-known for stealing ideas from the Jews to make themselves look superior - this is simply another case of that and YOU in your ignorance support it - memo to idiots like YOU - Russia is capable of producing world class mathematicians too - despit the lies you peddle - Germany is not the only country that studies mathematics dum dum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.101.123 (talk) 08:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The Truth will prevail - after being blocked by YOU from editing for 2 months - I return - to correct your ignorance - CANTOR WAS RUSSIAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.64.7 (talk) 15:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Remove nationality?[edit]

I wonder if it wouldn't be justified under WP:IAR to just remove any mention of nationality from the first sentence and the infobox. While WP:MOSBIO does mention "location or nationality" as an element that will usually be in the lead paragraph, MOSBIO is a guideline, and guidelines allow for exceptions.

People, please, it does not matter whether Cantor was German or Russian. Get over your stupid nationalisms. His importance is as a mathematician. --Trovatore (talk) 20:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea to me. Paul August 20:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
My hesitation is that I don't want to set a precedent for a hecklers' veto. Cantor spoke and wrote in German, not Russian (I don't know that he didn't know Russian, but I haven't seen records of him using it), he belonged to the German state church, and he lived most of his life in Germany. I think most sources are going to describe him as German.
But he didn't do his mathematics for the Tsar or the Kaiser; he did it for God, who has no nationality. --Trovatore (talk) 20:59, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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Article vs. Paper[edit]

I'd like to address Trovatore's recent edit in the section "‎Set theory." He justifies this edit with the statement: "it's not an article; it's a paper. Articles come in glossy magazines (and Wikipedia), not academic journals." I'm considering undoing this edit. However, I want to get some feedback first and I invite anyone justify his statement with a reliable source. In the following, I use the author guidelines from 8 mathematical journals that indicate "article" is an acceptable term and seems to be equivalent to the term "paper." I also quote from 5 Wikipedia articles. I have boldfaced the terms "article" and "paper" in the quotations below.

From Crelle's Journal:

Submission process

Set your manuscript according to the guidelines below

> Each paper should include a short but informative abstract, as well as the Mathematics Subject Classification 2010 representing the primary and secondary subjects of the article

Wikipedia American Mathematical Monthly:

The American Mathematical Monthly is an expository journal intended for a wide audience of mathematicians, from undergraduate students to research professionals. Articles are chosen on the basis of their broad interest and reviewed and edited for quality of exposition as well as content. In this the American Mathematical Monthly fulfills a different role from that of typical mathematical research journals. The American Mathematical Monthly is the most widely read mathematics journal in the world according to records on JSTOR.

From American Mathematical Monthly:

The American Mathematical Monthly publishes articles, notes, and other features about mathematics and the profession. Its readers span a broad spectrum of mathematical interests and abilities. Authors are invited to submit articles and notes that bring interesting mathematical ideas to a wide audience of Monthly readers.

Wikipedia American Journal of Mathematics:

Fields medalist Cédric Villani has speculated that "the most famous article in its long history" may be a 1958 paper by John Nash, "Continuity of solutions of parabolic and elliptic equations".

From American Journal of Mathematics:

By submitting a manuscript, the author acknowledges that it is original and not being submitted elsewhere. The Journal's policy is to require the assignment of copyright from all contributors at the time articles are accepted for publication. Decisions concerning publication of manuscripts in the American Journal of Mathematics rest solely with the Editors.

Wikipedia Proceedings of the American Mathematical Society:

Proceedings of the American Mathematical Society is a monthly mathematics journal published by the American Mathematical Society. As a requirement, all articles must be at most 15 printed pages.

From American Mathematical Society:

Where to send files for accepted papers

Links to specific instructions are available on each journal's home page.

Tracking the progress of your manuscript

Track an accepted article through the AMS journals publication stream using the Manuscript tracking system.

Making changes to articles after publication

To preserve the integrity of electronically published articles, once an individual article is electronically published but not yet in an issue, changes cannot be made in the article. The AMS policy on making changes to articles after publication provides information about submitting an errata.

Wikipedia Israel Journal of Mathematics:

Israel Journal of Mathematics is a peer-reviewed mathematics journal published by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Magnes Press). Founded in 1963, as a continuation of the Bulletin of the Research Council of Israel (Section F), the journal publishes articles on all areas of mathematics.

From Israel Journal of Mathematics:

Submission of articles

Papers submitted to the Israel Journal of Mathematics should be sent to iton@math.huji.ac.il, addressed to:

From Proceedings of the London Mathematical Society:

Submission of papers to the Proceedings of the London Mathematical Society

Proceedings

The Proceedings welcomes submissions of research articles where the final published length is 25 PAGES OR MORE

From International Journal of Mathematics:

Papers must be submitted with full address(es) and fax number(s) and e-mail address(es) of the author(s).

Abstracts should not be more than 300 words long.

Each article submitted must be accompanied by Mathematics Subject Classification 2000. A list of these numbers may be found in the annual Subject Index of Mathematical Reviews, published in the December issue.

I hope that this generates some discussion. RJGray (talk) 17:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

I just have a visceral negative reaction to "article". I find it extremely jarring in this context. It seems to downplay the originality of the work. It makes it sound like something that might show up in Time.
For work published in academic journals, it seems to me that "article" is OK for "survey articles"; that is, ones that don't report original results, but bring together what is known about something in the field. These can be very valuable service articles, but they are not original contributions. When it's an original contribution, if you don't call it a "paper", I think you're not treating it respectfully. --Trovatore (talk) 19:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)