Talk:George Galloway

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Former featured article candidate George Galloway is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination failed. For older candidates, please check the archive.
October 21, 2005 Featured article candidate Not promoted

Not NPOV[edit]

I have added a "NPOV tag" to this article. It is mainly a collection of accusations and controversies that present Galloway in a negative light and reads like it was written by a person with a serious grudge against him. His career as MP and politician ought to be the focus not cataloguing every public criticism he has ever received and adding superfluous details. There are three (3) sections dedicated to his visits to Iraq and meetings with Saddam Hussein, for example. The entire entry really ought to be rewritten and shortened considerably. I do not have time to do this at the moment but maybe someone familiar with Galloway, and able to maintain a NPOV, does. Cheers. User2346 (talk) 12:33, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

You are right about the article being overlong, and I am gradually reducing its length. His association with Saddam Hussein is possibly the most frequently made criticism of Galloway, followed by the various other controversies in which he has been involved over the years. These are now mainly notable incidents (many less notable ones have been removed over time).
I have found a couple of reliable sources in the past which present Galloway in a positive light, and cited them, but articles by Owen Jones and Seumas Milne made similar comments. Largely because of length issue, I deleted Jones first. In any case, Jones would now disagree with much of his piece from The Independent in February 2013, if his more recent twitter comments about Galloway are a guide. I added quotes from Milne's piece, following Galloway's spectacular Bradford West by-election win in 2012, but after the Respect MP's equally spectacular defeat, I removed the citation because Milne's comments seemed inappropriate. Believe me, positive comments about Galloway elsewhere are scarce. A case for the defence is rarely stated, and what exists is way out of the mainstream. Philip Cross (talk) 13:30, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

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2014 assault section[edit]

This section seems to be far too long in comparison to the rest of the article. Although it is notable enough to mention, Galloway wasn't seriously harmed in this.... I propose we trim it down. Most concerning is that we appear to be giving a platform for the latter day George Gordon-esque loon who assaulted him to spout his bile, including sliding the four little words "Galloway is Anti-semitic" into the article. Masterful slight of hand there, excellently played, very clever. But why should we be advertising the supposed excuses for a criminal assault against a politician? Claíomh Solais (talk) 23:07, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

The motive cannot be ignored, regardless as to whether the accusation is sustainable. Philip Cross (talk) 23:14, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Oh, and see Eric Heinze's article (cited in the article) as to why an accusation of antisemitism is not counted as libellous defamation.[1] I am certain Mr Galloway would be very interested in my recent Wikipedia edits. See this (he is almost certainly referring to me) and my user page. Potential conflict of interest declared.
  1. ^ Heinze, Eric (12 February 2015). "British MP exploits vague defamation law to sue Guardian journalist". The Conversation.  See also Heinze, Eric (2016). Hate Speech and Democratic Citizenship. Oxford: Oxford University Press. p. 31. 
Philip Cross (talk) 12:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Seems fine to me as it is. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 14:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

IMO the inclusion of the quote is simply a means to cleverly sneak the phrase "anti-semitic" into an article of a high profile public figure who is critical of the Israeli regime. This is the current tactic being employed by the Blairite Freikorps in their reactionary offensive against the non-Tory current leadership of the Labour Party and its close allies.... Corbyn, Livingstone and Galloway are "evil anti-semites" and McDonnell is a "communist extremist". It is all very facile and agenda driven. Claíomh Solais (talk) 20:18, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank goodness you are pre-occupied with the use of the word near the end of a long article, rather than the much more substantial and conspicuous passage in which the same word, used by Hadley Freeman, is necessarily featured, or in its derivations, to describe the legally unenforceable threatening letters Galloway sent to people who retweeted Freeman. Galloway would look ridiculous if you removed the word from that section as he would appear to be getting angry over nothing at all. The claim he is an anti-semite has a fairly long history, and it is silly to remove it because you happen to want to whitewash one criminal's motive mentioned near the end. Philip Cross (talk) 20:51, 28 March 2018 (UTC)