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GSP as Author[edit]

Hello, I was wondering why there is no mention of GSP's book on his page. His new book, The Way of the Fight, came out April 23rd 2013. I feel there should be a section on his page about it, he has even embarked on a media tour to promote the book, appearing on the Joe Rogan Podcast for example. WhoseTheDoctor (talk) 05:38, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


The page should be fleshed out a bit, with some new media perhaps, given Georges' new title as UFC Welterweight Champion.

Best Champion Ever[edit]

He's is going to be great. Anyway, I better add some input in here. Here is the post fight conference at youtube. Questions were asked, and he is going to fight Serra in February, which is most likely UFC 67, since UFC 66 is Dec. 30th. Not sure if this is the one that is going to be in Montreal, Canada, but it's likely. Hughes probably won't get a rematch for quite a while, plus there is no rematch title clause, as stated from that post fight conference video. -- 09:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


Isn't Kyokushin being credited as one of his main fighting styles? According to His Kyokushin trainer is TBA

Also Muay Thai isn't listed as one of his fighting styles. Kickboxing is, but that is not Muay Thai. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 06:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

Yeah, GSP trains at Muay Thai at the Wat in NYC under Kru Phil Nurse (former Euro champion.) Should this be mentioned? He goes to the Wat and Renzo Gracie's during his visits to NYC. - Justin

It should be mentioned that GSP trains at the WAT. I have met GSP at the WAT, and I must say that he is quite the nice guy. Unless you knew who he was, you would never know that he was a celebrity by his demeanor: humble, unassuming, great story teller.

Yep! I agree 110%. I recently injured my knee and he was actually giving me advice on what to do about it for almost 20 mins. Really nice guy. - Justin

Why does someone keep editing out the mentioning of the Wat? He trains there just as much as at Renzo's and he has said some nice things about it. He described it as "the best" he's seen in America too. - Justin

All material in a biography of a living person must conform to the requirements at WP:BLP (a Wikipedia policy page). Any material that is not properly sourced must be deleted without discussion by any editor. I didn't make the deletion, but I would expect that nobody would remove the material if you provided a Wikipedia:Reliable source the next time that you include it. Sancho 02:05, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Anyone got pictures?[edit]

Does anyone have any free pictures of GSP at UFC 65? Shawnc 07:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Try dude there is a whole gallery. may have some pics do but UFC does for sure. As they do of all the PPVs from the past few well as UFNs too.--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 00:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I mean user-taken pictures that can be used freely in this article. Commercial pictures can not be used except in basic fair-use cases. Shawnc 03:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I can point you in the direct of the Death Valley Driver Video Review message board I know a few dudes there went to the show and no doubt took pictures. But other than that, i'm sorry dude can't help ya. It doesn't matter anyway, when Hughes gets his rematch and gets his head out of his ass and decides to wrestle instead of kickbox he will take his belt back anyways :P. J/k j/k. --Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 16:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I added a request photo to the top of this talk page. MrMacMan Talk 02:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Haha! I love the Wat locker room photo of GSP! I burst into laughter when the page opened and I saw it! I was like "Hey, those lockers look familiar!"
YEA! i walked into the wat and saw gsp and wi was like "holy shit, it's you". I had to take the picture, i signed up to wiki just to post it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nmenez (talkcontribs) 19:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
Haha! Isn't he nice? I've been out for almost three weeks now. I tore my meniscus doing BJJ (idiot+ankle crank=torn meniscus.) I managed to get a t-shirt signing out of the injury ;)


Why is one of his wins against a "Pork philanthropist" that died 100 years ago? Click link "Thomas Denny" his fourth win from the bottem.

Also wtf is the UCC? I couldn't find anything on it, if anyone knows please link.- 10:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed "Thomas Denny" to redirect to the fighter. UCC was an MMA organization later bought by TKO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkamous (talkcontribs) 20:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Koscheck fight[edit]

The Koscheck fight had the comment attached to it which stated that the fight was for the interim title. It was not. I changed this a while ago but it was reverted. Nobody currently holds an interim title in the WW division, thats for UFC 79 to decide. If this gets reverted back, please provide a source which states that this fight was an interim title fight. Harley peters (talk) 02:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

You're reading that statement wrong (though I admit it was poorly worded). It wasn't saying the Koscheck fight itself was for the interim title. It was saying that, originally, the win made GSP the number one contender and he would fight the winner of Serra/Hughes for the welterweight title. Instead, Serra's injury forced that to be changed to him fighting for the interim title at UFC 79, not the official welterweight title. Of course, that's not REALLY correct either, because he didn't get the fight simply due to Serra's injury and the win over Koscheck. Matt, Dana, and GSP all agreed on the fight anyway, then Matt requested that it be for the interim title so it would go five rounds. Because the original statement was poorly worded (and not necessarily factually correct), I've clarified it to be more accurate. Tuckdogg (talk) 05:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


Whoever is doing it, please stop adding the "record" bar next to the result in the table, it is pointless and an unnecessary waste of space. SuzukS 10:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The format for MMA fighters is shown [here.] He should have his record included in the record table. Aducci (talk) 15:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

who is Maxwell Davis? never heard of him. any info on him?[edit]

who is Maxwell Davis? never heard of him. any info on him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


I think his weight needs revising - he competes at 170lbs, however he will weigh closer to 180+, as he cuts to make weight. Anyone know his actual weight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

A fighter or wrestlers weight can change a great deal from day to day and week to week. His weight today can be very different then his weight tomorrow.Mantion (talk) 22:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

193. 46 seconds in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charwinger21 (talkcontribs) 18:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes you are right his weight is 170 lb ( 76 kg ) Tony saint marc (talk) 21:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

If he changed his weight, so where is the source of this info ? Tony saint marc (talk) 21:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

GSP, BJP superbowl saturday?[edit]

I was just on Chuck Liddell page and noticed they listed his tentative site. I am not sure if this is a good practice since so many fights get changed due to illness or injury. That said should we list the tentative between GSP and BJP on Superbowl Saturday?Mantion (talk) 22:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Please remove the line[edit]

"He is well known to be a cheater, that`s his main accomplishment" It's has been overlooked from the previous vandalism. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


I just completed a major rewrite of all of the references and copyedited the text quite a bit. Maybe that will help keep down the vandalism. (Yeah, right!)--2008Olympianchitchat 03:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


I have changed

A controversy arose during the fight when St-Pierre's cornermen were spotted rubbing St-Pierre down with Vaseline.


A controversy arose during the fight when St-Pierre's cornermen were spotted rubbing St-Pierre's back immediately after applying Vaseline to his face. (Cornerman are allowed to apply vaseline to a fighter's face to prevent cuts, but not to lubricate his body.)

The facts are that St. Pierre's cornerman rubbed his face with vaseline and then immediately rubbed his back, as could be seen on the Pay-per-view. It has been alleged (by BJ Penn's team and others) that this was an attempt to transfer vaseline to St. Pierre's back. However, St. Pierre's team has denied they were "rubbing St. Pierre down with Vaseline", so I've tried to rephrase it in a NPOV way. I also felt it was necessary to clarify that using vaseline for cut prevention is not illegal, but using it for lubrication is. Otherwise, a reader might mistakenly think that the mere fact that they had vaseline in his corner was evidence of wrongdoing. -- Tim314 (talk) 17:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Removed as unsourced. There was no "controversy" only an attempt by BJ Penn to make an excuse for his loss. The atheletic commission refused to act on this, thus there was no controversy. If we can get a legitimate source where people other than BJ Penn make the same claim, then perhaps it should be reinstated. All fighters faces are rubbed with vaseline. There is no evidence of vaseline on his body. If you have evidence, please share and source it. Lattefever (talk) 14:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)Lattefever St. Pierre definitely cheated. If it significantly affected the match ... I'm not sure, but it doesn't really matter. Cheating is cheating. (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

GSP vs Penn[edit]

Anyone want to revise some of it? It looks poorly written. SDRXD (talk) 02:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


Remove the belts in the sidebar. No other MMA fighters have it and I do not understand why GSP should. Belts are not an objective ranking system and should not be portrayed as such. (talk) 23:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh, WTF? It's not "portrayed as an objective ranking system", it's simply stating the facts that he has them. If you don't want to give them any weight that's up to you. --aktsu (t / c) 02:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I think the Martial Arts credentials of MMA fighters should be encouraged. They worked hard to master their disciplines. Their belt ranks are noted by the commentators at events so it doesn't hurt to make note of them on Wikipedia. AncientObserver (talk) 11:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
This isn't a MMA ranking site, if a fighter holds a rank in a martial art then it is highly relent to an encyclopaedia article on them. --Nate1481 13:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree. All pertinent information should be mentioned in an Encyclopedia. AncientObserver (talk) 18:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Belt color is not an objective credential system and does not belong next to universally accepted measurements like height, weight, and record. I don't mind mention of them in the article but they don't belong in the sidebar with a colored box next to them. Again, no other MMA fighter has them and I don't see why GSP does. (talk) 01:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)have

You think listing the record is OK, but not his belts? The record doesn't tell you any more about the quality of the fighter (it depends on the competition) than what the belts do, and in most cases I would say the belts give a far better base for comparison, so I'm not sure I understand that argument. Why does everything in the infobox have to be "universally accepted measurements" anyway? The reason most other articles doesn't have them is because they're using an older version of the infobox. --aktsu (t / c) 18:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


Since there is no text in the article sating GSP's faith, I'm remmoving the categories he's been placed in. You can re-add them when there is a source for his faith. --Kevlar (talkcontribs) 02:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


Under the styles category it no longer includes boxing. Why?

GSP trains boxing at Grant boxing. If you would like to verifiable proof you can watch UFC primetime Episode 1 at the 16 min and 58 second mark it clear states Grant boxing gym and then shows GSP training boxing there.

Here is a link for proof...

PS- It also shows him training Muay Thai with Jru Phil Nurse at the 15min 24 second mark, and Renzo Gracie at Renzo academy at the 13min and 40 second mark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonycpa2004 (talkcontribs) 14:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Random lines on his record[edit]

We need to get rid of the 2 lines that separate random parts on his record. The first one is between his 4 win Thomas Denny and his 5 win Pete Spratt and the second one is between his 11 win Sean Sherk and 12 win B.J. Penn. The one that separates the next fight is fine since the fight hasnt happened yet and it kind of helps to understand that. (GSP-Rush (talk) 08:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC))

Intro Music Section[edit]

The entrance music section shows that he lost at UFC 46, but the record section above contradicts this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:47, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Breakdown Incorrect?[edit]

I believe this is incorrect. His breakdown list him as having 20 wins. 9 KO, 5 subs, and 7 decisions. Those number add up to 21. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bencjoyce (talkcontribs) 15:20, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Ultimate Fighter 12[edit]

Why does this page contain no references to his coaching on the ultimate fighter against Josh Koscheck? I added something before but someone removed it. (Leclaird (talk) 21:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC))

Matt Serra I[edit]

In the first Matt Serra bout, GSP is seen clearly tapping due to repeated blows from mount, prompting referee stoppage. Why is it then listed as a loss by TKO?

(User:anonymous (talk) 21:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Koscheck 2[edit]

Can somebody list GSP's walkout music for UFC 124 against Koscheck? The song is "Ca fait mal" by La Fouine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

See Also[edit]

Could the list of current mixed martial arts champions tag be added to the see also section? Thaddeus Venture (talk) 21:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed edit to Championships and accomplishments[edit]

Please add the following:

  • Fighter of the Year 2010 [1]

Champbronc2 (talk) 21:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC) Champbronc2

Edit request Tattoo[edit]

{{Edit semi-protected}}



In an interview George St. Pierre said, "The tattoo on my chest means that there are two sides to me the angel side and the devil side I can be very rude and I can be very nice. I like to be rude when I fight." cit: A day – and exclusive interview – with Georges 'Rush' St. Pierre

His tattoo is actually Japanese Kanji meaning [[2]] (aka. Jujitsu or Jiu Jitsu). Detail of tattoo Definition of Japanese Kanji characters (talk) 03:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Apologies, but I'm not going to add this because it simply doesn't seem important enough to include in the article. I can't actually think of any other articles where we list what tattoos the people have and what they mean, unless it's highly notable. Basically, just because something is reliably sourced, doesn't mean it should automatically go into the article. We need to focus on the most important facts that provide a complete, encyclopedic story of notable actions. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:24, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Mania112, 2 March 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}

Fighter of the Year 2009

Mania (talk) 19:45, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, it would be helpful if you could paste in the URL to where he was named "Fighter of the Year" for 2009. I'll try to find it anyway, but it would make my life easier since you already know where it is. Thanks! Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

GSP's trainers and fight teams[edit]

John Danaher isn't GSP's only jiu jitsu trainer. He's been training under Renzo Gracie for a LONG time. Renzo Gracie should be listed as GSP's jiu jitsu trainer along with Danaher. Also, you should add Renzo Gracie Academy as one of GSP's gyms. He spends a lot more time at Renzo Gracie Academy than he does at Grudge or Jackson's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request[edit]

The information concerning his consecutive UFC title defences under the 'Championships and accomplishments' heading needs to be changed due to last night's title defence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Subsection for every fight[edit]

Does the article really need a subsection for every fight GSP has had? Portillo (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

A discussion on this issue for all MMA fighter articles has been started at the MMA Wikiproject. You are welcome to offer your thoughts there as this issue may involve more than just the GSP article. --TreyGeek (talk) 13:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


Please don't delete the flag icons. They're factual information and make the record visually easier to interpret by adding colour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NinjaNerd8 (talkcontribs) 22:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

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File: Georges St-Pierre.jpg[edit]

Can someone please update the photo? This picture of Georges St-Pierre is 4 years old. And a photo taken in a club? Really? For an athlete's wiki/profile/bio? Weescoosaa (talk) 04:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, it's all according where and when people get a chance to take a picture of him. Remember, the picture has to be under a free license; we can't use press photos. —C.Fred (talk) 05:20, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong information[edit]

He lost to Matt Hughes at UFC 50. please fix it on his record, I am not skilled at editing these pages. Thank you. Keeping wikipedia great! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect Title Belt Information.[edit]

After each successful defense of the Welterweight Title, G.S.P. is given an entirely new belt to add to his collection of UFC Welterweight Title Belts. So, for example, after beating Nick Diaz, G.S.P. should now have eight Welterweight Championship Belts. Under the photo of the Title Belt, it says something along the lines of "This is the belt G.S.P. has defended." I think this is a little misleading, seeing as how every time he defends his title, he is actually given a new belt to add to his collection. I heard this information from either Dana White or Joe Rogan and just wanted to mention this here in case anyone wanted to fix this... let me know what you think. LogicalCreator (talk) 05:14, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 March 2013[edit]

Greg Jackson's MMA not Gay Jackson (talk) 05:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Done I compared the text to an earlier version and agree that Greg is the correct first name. —C.Fred (talk) 05:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 March 2013[edit]

Below the image of GSP's belt it says defended "eight" times. I would like it changed to "nine" times. KKambli (talk) 19:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

  • According to this source, he has eight title defenses. [3] ComputerJA (talk) 20:00, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
He has defended Nines times in a row. He has 11 UFC Championship Victories.
Hughes, then a loss, then Hughes, Serra, Fitch, Penn, Alves, Hardy, Kosheck, Sheilds, Condit, Diaz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:b251:8299:cce8:bd54:71c5:54d9 (talkcontribs) 22:09, 4 May 2013‎ (UTC)
It looks like the discrepancy is that we don't count the Serra match as a title defence. He won an interim title against Hughes and the undisputed title against Serra. That leave eight defences of his title afterward. —C.Fred (talk) 22:23, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps an asterisk and a note since most sites list the Hughes fight as a title fight. If a contender wins an interim belt and the Champion does not return that individual becomes the Champion so in all further bouts that person is defending his belt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:B251:8299:C9B2:6F20:1DBF:AA63 (talk) 16:42, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Nationality description[edit]

He is French speaking Quebecer is like saying an English speaking British. It should say French speaking Canadian from Quebec. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattwattyz (talkcontribs) 16:09, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

It's more analogous to saying an English-speaking Scot: it's a reference to a specific region of a nation. Canadian from Quebec isn't outright redundant, but it's cumbersome. —C.Fred (talk) 21:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


His opinion is relevant, as he was the only other person in the ring with the two fighters. Enigmamsg 16:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2013[edit]

On December 13, 2013 St-Pierre officialy announced that he would take some time off from MMA and vacate his belt. He left the door open for a possible return in the future, saying that he "needed a break".[1] Lifebleeder (talk) 20:17, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Already done with this edit. --ElHef (Meep?) 01:27, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


  1. ^ "Georges St. Pierre Vacates Title, Taking Indefinite Time Off". 2013-12-13.  Unknown parameter |Author= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2014[edit]

Please change "St-Pierre controlled the fight and eventually sneaked in a rear naked choke" to :St-Pierre controlled the fight and eventually snuck in a rear naked choke" as "snuck" is the proper past tense use of the word sneak.

Sarrkazztic (talk) 13:57, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Wiktionary's entry lists sneaked and snuck as valid past tense forms. Google Chrome's spell-checker does not recognize snuck as valid. —C.Fred (talk) 17:00, 20 October 2014 (UTC)


Someone changed his height to 5'11" but both references say 5'10". — Preceding unsigned comment added by NerdNinja9 (talkcontribs) 07:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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Georges St-Pierre's weight[edit]

The Wikipedia page claims that he weighed 195 lbs. and that's off course incorrect since he was a Welterweight fighter where the weight limit is 170 lbs. His real weight was according to Sherdog exactly 170 lbs. (talk) 16:58, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I found where the weight was changed a year ago with no citation for the change. Since the height is cited to Sherdog, it's reasonable to do the same for weight. I've changed it back. —C.Fred (talk) 18:10, 12 March 2016 (UTC)