Talk:Georgia–Russia relations

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Image[edit]

I fully agree that the problem of Abkhazia and South Ossetia is the biggest one in Rus-Geo relations. However the image is clearly pov (aside from other issues) and cannot be used as the only illustration. Alæxis¿question? 07:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Being the only illustration is not a big deal. You can add others whenever you want. If you consider the image to be a Georgian POV, try to find a Russian POV pic to balance it. I don't have any objection to it.--KoberTalk 07:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I can't agree with you here. If you see an article with POV illustration you are not obliged to find another one that would present the opposite POV. Alæxis¿question? 07:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
It is not a POV image, but just a illustration of the Georgian view of the current developments. I also added the pic depicting the Putinist youth organization rally in Moscow. --KoberTalk 08:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Update to Missile incident (experts opinion)[edit]

Got this link here: [1]. News released after experts have finished the study of material. Anyone who can read russian (or georgian) better could update the article. Suva 08:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

explanation[edit]

The paragraph in question has nothing to do with the section it was inserted to (post-independence relations). As this article is only about post-1992 relations I don't think it should be here at all. Alæxis¿question? 17:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Georgian Embassy rally.jpg[edit]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Moscow rally 8.10.06.jpg[edit]

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Drone Affair[edit]

I read a Russian article about the MiG-29 video (couldn't find the same information in the English language). The Russian ministry of the interior says that the video is a bad fake, and here are their reasons:

- The UAV is equipped with a look-down camera, and can't see much higher than the horizon. Any pilot recognizes this, and if he didn't want to be videotaped, would not approach the UAV from below.

- In the video, the airplane launches the missile from the wing extremity. The MiG-29 design doesn't mount weapons on the end of the wing, only in the middle.

- The propellant in Russian short-range air-air missiles apparently doesn't produce a smoke trail, like it does in the video.

- The location in the video is hard to recognize. The Abkhazian coast has a wide sandy beach which isn't seen in the footage. Also, two roads are seen parallel to the water which are not present in real life.

(And the delay of the release of the video itself raises suspicion to its authenticity. It's like someone took the time to render it before releasing.)

Date: Apr. 29 2008


Commentary: I'm suspecting that distrust of Russia in the western world is obligatory. I've looked and couldn't find a single article in news.google.com or cnn.com discussing the video's veracity. But all the news on the subject are the same tone of supposed Russian aggression and involvement in internal affairs of Georgia. This kind of "silence" in the English-speaking news sources, and the readiness of people to believe a sloppy video, are troubling. I've given up on objectivity in the news (English or Russian), but I hope wikipedia would not go the same way. And I'm not trying to take sides -- I do feel for the Georgian situation (just like I feel for Serbia).

140.211.139.171 (talk) 23:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Pov in section "military buildup in abkhazia"[edit]

I believe that section is POV as it only shows the Georgian POV. The number of peacekeepers are being increased from 2k-3k, I hardly see this as a "military buildup". Russia says that this is in line with the agreements it signed with Georgia. Also, Russia claims that Georgia is increasing it's military along the border with Abkhazia. I will make these modifications and add references when I get a chance. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 02:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

"military buildup" refers not only to Georgia's view of the increase of Russian "peacekeepers" number, but also Russia's blubber regarding a "Georgian-NATO invasion". And the section begins with Russia's accusations. You have a strange ability to see a "Georgian POV" in the texts actually tilted towards a Russian POV. --KoberTalk 05:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

New article with info from relations page[edit]

I've created a new article for the recent tensions titled 2008 Georgia-Russia crisis. I included information from this page and added other information. Any improvements that can be made to the article would be welcome.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 18:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Poorly organised[edit]

In fairness, this article is a bit of a mess, no? A lot of the sections contain only links. It's got a major "TL;DR" factor too. It could do with some streamlining and better organising. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.15.69 (talk) 13:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


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