Talk:German Fernandez

Poorly written page

This page needs help in numerous areas. It currently looks like amature hour. And whoever is adding every XC race he is running, stop. Keep entires for significant championships only. Qualifiers, Cowboy Jamborees, etc. need to go. If he continues on pace there will be plenty of great things over the years to highlight. Creating an entry for every race just just diminishes the signficant stuff.--Fizbin (talk) 21:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a first-time 'editor' here at Wikipedia; just signed up in fact. I couldn't agree with you more, Fizbin. I spent a decent amount of time cleaning up the article, fixing hyperlinks, etc.

People,

1. Follow the precedence set in other running Wiki's. I saw this: 1, 500 m. What is that, exactly? Why is there a comma and a space? Go to El Guerrouj's page, and you will see 1500m, which is what I changed it to. Before you make changes, look at the standards established in other Wiki pages.

2. This page is about German Fernandez.

3. I repeat, this page is about German Fernandez. Yes, Rich Kimball was a fantastic athlete. So was Jeff Nelson, Lindgren, Rupp, and every other athlete whose record he surpassed in some way. But the page isn't about them. When you speak of German's performance somewhere, you don't have to mention who he beat, by how much, that person's mother's maiden name etc. I tried to only leave in references to other athletes when they were appropriate.

4. Be impartial and unbiased. Before I changed it, the article read "Fernandez placed a disappointing third...." Disappointing? Says who? Sure, maybe to you, maybe to EVERYONE (except Fout and Derrick), 3rd was disappointing, but save the bias, please.

5. "Select Races By Event". It honestly looks like a completely random sample of his races. I realize it is chronological, but why are his college and HS races mixed? His Artichoke Invite was great, but it's also the only 2.4 mile race... wtf?

The Select Races section either needs to be reworked, or deleted. If no one minds (and no one fixes it), I'm going to delete that section in a week. EscapeDummy (talk) 04:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Mexican-American?

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Fernandez is of Mexican heritage, but I'm hesitant to add Category:Mexican American sportspeople in case I'm wrong and he's some other branch of Hispanic. Could anyone confirm this one way or the other? — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 00:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I think he's South American..? Read that somewhere. --B0bby flay (talk) 07:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

• See Tarahumara for a reference to his ethnicity.Raymondwinn (talk) 16:28, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this? I never heard of that before, and a google search only brings back him being on the Tarahumara article, which was unsourced.. I removed it. --CutOffTies (talk) 16:44, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

This page seems a little biased. "The performance is seen as one of the most outstanding in the history of high school middle-distance running." Seen by who has the most outstanding? This is an example of weasel wording. Also, the 5k is considered a long-distance event. And why is there a page on Fernandez and not one on Chris Derrick or Mike Fout?75.5.73.214 (talk) 02:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's so bad. He beat what is undoubtedly one of the strongest high school course records, with a 14 second margin and in mediocre conditions. IMO the sources do a fairly good job of backing this up. I suppose you're right that it's weasel wording, but minor ambiguities aren't really of concern when we're dealing with strictly positive personal information.

Suppose you're right about the distance classification. Middle distance track event suggests that there's some ambiguity, but by and large it seems 5k is considered long distance (as you say). — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 06:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Notability

Ok this guy is notable, he had the single greatest day in HS track ever, 4:00 and NR 8:34. I removed the tag Unterdenlinden (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

German Fernandez is indeed great. But, do your research. Back in 1974, Rich Kimball had 45 minutes only between his 4:06 & 8:45, while German had 3 hours. Helluva double nonetheless for German, but he might not have been able to do what the distance runners from the days of yore did back in the high mileage era of the 70s. Them cats was for real back in tose days (Hulst, Ralph Serna, etc.) Any real prep track history afficionado will know this fact about Kimball(check the California State Meet history book put out by T&F News).~lightdweller~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightdweller (talk • contribs) 01:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the running community has forgotten about Kimball, but there is a bit of a discrepancy.

	Kimball	Fernandez
1600	4:05.2 (4:06.6 x 1600/1609.3)	4:00.3
3200	8:43.4 (8:46.5 x 3200/3218.7)	8:34.2

Both amazing performances, of course. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 02:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

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