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The Syriac spelling ܓܕܣܡܢ is wrong. It does not correspond to the square script Aramaic spelling earlier. There is no final "y", "d" instead of "t", "s" instead of "š". I checked Brown Driver Briggs Hebrew English Lexicon, which gives the Syriac of the Hebrew words.
I once watched a documentary that claimed that Gethsemane is too cold a place at nighttime for men to be able to sleep in such conditions. Is there any truth to this, anything written about this in a credible source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 01:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Burial of Virgin Mary
In the page on the Virgin Mary, it states that "Her death is not recorded in scripture; however, tradition has her assumed (taken bodily) into Heaven. Belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is universal to Catholicism, in both Eastern and Western Churches, as well as the Eastern Orthodox Church." There is also no mention of a burial in the Assumption of Mary article. However in this entry on Gethsemane it reads "According to the Eastern Orthodox Church tradition, Gethsemane is the garden where the Apostles buried the Virgin Mary." Can anyone make sense of this? Nktpr (talk) 07:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
"Location" section self-contradictory
- While tradition locates Gethsemane on the lower slopes of the Mount of Olives, the exact spot remains unknown. According to the New Testament it was a place that Jesus and his disciples customarily visited, which allowed Judas to find him on the night of his arrest. Overlooking the garden is the Church of All Nations, also known as the Church of the Agony, built on the site of a church destroyed by the Sassanids in 614, and a Crusader church destroyed in 1219. Nearby is the Russian Orthodox Church of St. Mary Magdalene with its golden, onion-shaped domes (Byzantine/Russian style), built by Russian Tsar Alexander III in memory of his mother.
So is its location unknown, or do we know where it is well enough to say what overlooks it and what is nearby? This seems to imply that the original garden was lost at some point and the current one being described/depicted in the article's pictures is a later recreation. If so, the article should probably have some information about that added. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Let me try to clarify, because the language may be ambiguous but there is no contradiction. If we agree that the garden is located "on the lower slopes of the Mount of Olives", we still have to determine which slope it is: Facing North, South, East, or West? (facing West would be my first logical choice, i.e. towards the city of Jerusalem). Now, wherever the garden is located on the any of the lower slopes, any place on the summit would be overlooking it. Now, even if we agree on what slope, there would still be some leeway regarding the exact location. For example, the Western slope is close to 2 km in length (a significant part thereof is taken up by the Jewish cemetery). elpincha (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
The closing statement: "...the place where, according to the gospels, Jesus and his disciples are said to have prayed the night before Jesus' crucifixion." is inaccurate.
In reality, none of the gospels state that Jesus was executed the next day (or the same day by Jewish reckoning). As far as can be determined, several days could have elapsed between his arrest and execution. What all four gospels actually say is that he was arrested (following that Seder meal), and that he was subsequently (perhaps several days later) executed on a Friday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMBarber (talk • contribs) 15:18, 29 January 2014 (UTC)