Talk:Gibraltar

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Former good article nominee Gibraltar was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Source discussion[edit]

Average daily temperatures[edit]

One or more anonymous editors recently put some effort into changing all the monthly daily mean temperatures, and I have changed them back. The edit summary seems to say the editor calculated the daily mean temperature for a month as the mean of the highest and lowest temperature in the month, which is not what daily mean temperature for a month means. It is the mean over the entire month. One has to measure the temperature every hour of the month and divide by the number of hours in the month. A bigger problem is that we don't normally synthesize facts in Wikipedia - we just report what other documents say. The source for these numbers is given as http://www.dwd.de/DWD/klima/beratung/ak/ak_084950_kt.pdf . Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) (talk) 16:34, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

It's happened a few more times, most recently it was only for only three months, for some reason. The edit summary suggests the source is incorrect, but there is no better source given - just the editor's own incorrect calculation. Other edit summaries make it clear the editor didn't check the talk page in August as requested in my edit summary then, and didn't understand why some of us prefer the original numbers. I have changed the numbers back to match the source and referred again to this talk page. Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) (talk) 02:16, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

ONU´s resolution.[edit]

This article doesn´t even mention the resolution of 1946 that talks about "Non-Self-Governing Territories", so I think it shoud be mentioned. http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

"Gibraltar was nominated to be included on the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories by the United Kingdom when the list was created in 1946[47] and has been listed ever since.[48] The government of Gibraltar has actively worked to have Gibraltar removed from the list,[49] and in 2008 the British government declared Gibraltar's continued presence on the list an anachronism.[50]"

Incorrect, the article does. WCMemail 14:01, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Monthly high and low temperatures[edit]

As an editor today found fault with the article's statements about January high and low temperatures, I looked to the source to see what it says, and it doesn't seem to back up either version. The statement is,

In the coldest month, January, the temperature ranges from 11–18 °C (52–64 °F) during the day and 6–13 °C (43–55 °F) at night, the average sea temperature is 15–16 °C (59–61 °F)

The source, https://www.weather2travel.com/climate-guides/gibraltar/gibraltar.php, doesn't give a range. It just gives one number, 16 for high, 10 for low, and 16 for sea. I couldn't find ranges anywhere. I note that the listed source is the 2009 version of the document, so maybe it changed.

Also there is another source, used for the table below that paragraph, which has slightly different numbers for August. It would be nice for the article to be consistent, by using the same source or sources for both.

So should we rewrite that paragraph to use the single numbers from the chart, or am I missing something?

As it stands, I have no reason to prefer the old version to the new version, as neither is backed by reliable sources. Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) (talk) 02:30, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I've made the change to use the single numbers from the same source as the chart.
Note that another editor has switched that source since I wrote above. Given the history of mistakes in this section, I did a quick sampling of the source and confirmed it matches the current article text. Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) (talk) 17:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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Discussion at Gib (disambiguation)#Requested move 5 May 2018[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Gib (disambiguation)#Requested move 5 May 2018. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 05:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)