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America's Favorite Fighting Frenchman[edit]

If the article's semi-protection has not been lifted yet, I propose it does so. Chicbyaccident (talk) 19:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
I have removed it per your request.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! Chicbyaccident (Please notify with {{SUBST:re}} (Talk) 12:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
I've had to revert another "America's Favorite Fighting Frenchman", which is how he is referred to in Hamilton. How do people feel about this? If people want it included in the article, I'm prepared to accept that. Can we have a discussion? I'm prepared to accept things either way. The public certainly has a voice in this article and if it's clear this is what the public wants, I'll source it, possibly annotate it, and we go on. If people feel it should go, well, then I'd have that behind me when removing it. I started out opposed, but now I'm indifferent.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone have an opinion on this? Should I start a RfC?--Wehwalt (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Someone had added the description "America's Favourite Fighting Frenchman" to the Wikidata entry; it was showing up on mobile. I removed it from there, FYI. Robaato (talk) 09:20, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Section on Lafayette's opinion on slavery[edit]

Do you think these sources would be reliable if I am looking to add a section on Lafayette's opinion on slavery? If you have any other references you think would be useful please let me know. Thank you! http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/marquis-de-lafayettes-plan-for-slavery/ http://rmc.library.cornell.edu/lafayette/exhibition/english/abolitionist/ https://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/marquis-de-lafayette "Lafayette and Slavery; From His Letters to Thomas Clarkson and Granville Sharp" by Melvin D. Kennedy https://rare.library.cornell.edu/collections/europe/france/lafayette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorte106 (talkcontribs) 03:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

I guess what I'm wondering is why is it needed? Lafayette never lived in the US and we do mention that he urged emancipation on Washington, who wasn't that interested.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:44, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
@Wehwalt: He probably wants to add information about Lafayette's opinions on slavery in general, rather than his opinions on slavery in the US in particular. France had questions about slavery at the time as well. Jorte106 Alfgarciamora (talk) 13:57, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
The sources look fine. They mention that Lafayette did attempt to buy some property in hopes of converting slaves to free tenant holders.[1] It is more about pipe dreams that didn't work out. A section about it might give the reader insight to the man. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:29, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
A section might be much. A paragraph or two, dealing with the (as I recall) French Guiana scheme and his views, would be very welcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:13, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Marquis de Lafayette's Plan for Slavery". George Washington's Mount Vernon. Retrieved 21 February 2017. 

Changed "ideals good be" to "ideals could be"[edit]

In the "Beliefs" section, there was a non-grammatical phrase, introduced by Jorte106 in edit 2017-03-19T20:00:51:

"tradition and revolutionary ideals good be mended together"

My guess is that "good" was used instead of "could" because of its phonetic similarity. To fix that problem and two other nearby issues, I replaced that phrase with edit 2017-03-30T14:37:08. I changed it to:

"traditional and revolutionary ideals could be melded together"

I am not sure that's exactly what the original editor intended, but it seems plausible, and the sentence now makes grammatical sense.

I also note that the whole paragraph has a cite to encyclopedia.com, but that the encyclopedia.com article does not support the paragraph. I believe that the paragraph needs better support, but that's a different discussion.

--Peter Kaminski (talk) 21:57, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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