Talk:Gimli Glider

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October 10, 2005 Featured article candidate Not promoted

How far?[edit]

No where is it mentioned how far the plane glided before it landed. Just about every other number, figure, fact is given; but NO glide distance. By including the glide distance, I think it would make the 'successful' landing that much more impressive. 2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 04:06, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


Shouldn't an experienced pilot notice right on takeoff that the airplane is much lighter than expected if it only has half the needed fuel on board? --BjKa (talk) 12:36, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Miracle tag[edit]

United Flight Number blah blah blah..just looked at it seconds ago and I can't remember the digits. But everyone remembers "The Miracle on the Hudson" - a vivid, memorable, tag. There's way too much grey mush on WP and it's important to retain these descriptions that stick in people's minds. Yes, we have a house style of referring to major aviation accidents by the flight number, but c'mon, this article is called Gimli Glider, not "Air Canada flight number blah blah who cares blah". We have "Lindbergh kidnapping", not "the Richard Hauptmann case" or worse yet "New Jersey police report from 1932". --Wtshymanski (talk) 16:25, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

OK so the reason(s) for this not being included are officially "unnecessary" because it "doesn't belong", which is totally not begging the question. I'm certainly convinced now I "understand", good job revert warriors, Wikipedia is better off without people knowing if it's that thing they hear of already. Siuenti (씨유엔티) 17:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh I found another reason hidden away on my talk page where Wtshymanski would presumably not see it, it goes "A Miracle is defined as an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs. Miracle on the Hudson is mentioned in the US Airways Flight 1549 article but I think it is unnecessary in the See also section of Gimli Glider. This is an encyclopedia not a news rag and I believe it should be held to a higher standard. " So yeah, WP:COMMONNAME would totally agree with that I'm sure. Thanks and good luck. Siuenti (씨유엔티) 17:13, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Wtshymanski for starting this discussion. I don't care for the phrase "The Miracle on the Hudson" but I understand that it belongs in the US Airways Flight 1549 article. In fact no miracle occurred and encyclopedias deal in fact not sensational titles. Anyone seeking flamboyant headings and colorful stories may usually be found reading the National Enquirer. Just my opinion and I will happily follow any consensus that is reached. Samf4u (talk) 17:19, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
You do understand that when Wikipedia says "aka the Miracle on the Hudson" it's not saying it's an actual miracle? Like with the Miracle on Ice or the Miracle at the Meadowlands, Wikipedia has no official stance as to whether divine intervention was really involved. Siuenti (씨유엔티) 17:29, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Grey mush rules the day. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:03, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Given that this incident is already listed at List of airline flights that required gliding, it is redundant to list it here also. I've removed it and the other incident also. Kept the Mars one. - BilCat (talk) 19:23, 8 June 2017 (UTC):

Now it will be easy to find, great job. Siuenti (씨유엔티) 19:53, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I always appreciate support. - BilCat (talk) 22:33, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
ghits are not persuasive, but oh, my, there are ever so many ghits for "Miracle on the Hudson" including plugs for a major motion picture. But Wikipedia only touches base with reality on an as-needed basis.--Wtshymanski (talk) 23:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC)