Talk:Glossary of vexillology

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Why should animals and beasts always appear with the heads facing the flag-staff side? I can't sem to find an answer on the internet and my encyclopedia doesn't mention the rule. Thank you!

Definitions of Hoist, Fly[edit]

I'm confused. The definitions of hoist and fly used on this page don't seem to match those used elsewhere online (for example in the picture that I just added. Any thoughts? I'll go check the OED right now to see what it has to say about the matter. --Jacobolus 04:25, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You obviously didn't look hard enough. Here are some links:
I also have some flag books that use the hoist and fly definitions as described in the above links. – AxSkov (T) 07:22, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That all said, the picture of the flag shows the "hoist" being in the middle of the flag, not the part closest to the pole, as it should be. CsikosLo 13:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Vexillological symbol[edit]

Vexillological symbol was just merged into and redirected to this page. -Harmil 20:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

2007-02-1 Automated pywikipediabot message[edit]

--CopyToWiktionaryBot 12:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Air force ensigns and war flags[edit]

It is not clear to me that air force ensigns are distinct from war flags. Please could we have a citation / clarification. Greenshed 00:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Though a broad reading of "war flag" as any variant national flag flown on land by a military organization would include air force ensigns as one type, it appears that a narrower reading is generally used by vexillologists -- at least as reflected by their main online forum, the Flags of the World website. I've been unable to find an air force ensign listed there that is tagged with the FIAV "war flag" symbol. Most aren't tagged with any of these symbols, suggesting such flags are outside the scope of that nomenclature. (One counter-example to this is Air Force Ensign 1931-1939 (Spain) at Flags of the World, but that's tagged as a "naval ensign", not a "war flag".) At least one prolific vexillologist, Zeljko Heimer, has proposed a set of 3x3 grid symbols to augment the 2x3 grids used to define war flags, etc.; the extra row would be for "air flags" (presumeably for civil, state, and war versions). Though this hasn't been officially endorsed, it is consistent with the idea that "war flag" is generally not intended to include air force ensigns.
All that being said, however, I wouldn't object to different example being used to illustrate the point that the 2x3 grid system doesn't fully describe all the distinctions made in practice by various countries. "War flag" is a confusing term! --ScottMainwaring 04:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Red =/= orange[edit]

I don't think there's such terminology that the word "red" should mean "orange" in vexillology, is there? If there isn't, the Image:Flag of Niger.svg should be modified, I guess, in accordance with the article. What do you think? Adam78 16:26, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

National flag variants by use[edit]

Those little six-partitioned designs need some kind of explanation. CsikosLo 13:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Nine years later and they still need an explanation!!! Haha. (talk) 21:57, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

To avoid confusion[edit]

How would one define a symbol on a flag that is typically used in heraldry, but shares its name with a different symbol in flag design; e.g., if you want to put a heraldry-specific chevron on your flag, how do you differentiate it from the flag-specific chevron? Anyone have an idea? DerekMBarnes (talk) 06:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Why was "Basic patterns in flags" removed?[edit]

I couldn't find any justification in article history or any discussion. (talk) 12:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Restored. Looks like some anonymous jackass/vandal removed it without reason. I came here from a terminology link and started looking into why the word I was linked from never appeared on the page. (talk) 20:08, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Reference for flying upside down missing.[edit]

I just tried to go to the reference for flying a flag upside down and it came up with an error.--JamesF0790 (talk) 09:12, 15 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesF0790 (talkcontribs) 06:06, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

define "ensign"[edit]

The word "ensign" is used quite a bit, and significantly, in § National flag variants by use, as well as on this talk page, but it's never defined. Needs doing! I'm going to put a pointer to this note in the appropriate place on Project Heraldry and vexillology. Thnidu (talk) 01:52, 5 April 2015 (UTC)