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Galeritct cristata[edit]

Does anyone know anything about "Galeritct cristata"? I tried to spell it in different ways and google for it, but the only hits I got were from Wikipedias article about Gobi. Linn yeh, cooolis ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.225.20 (talk) 06:20, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

maybe latin GALERIT : ADJ - wearing a hood or skull-cap; ( from http://www.incunabulabooks.com/ibrflatg.htm )

It may be the Crested Lark, Galerida cristata. From [1]:

"The Crested lark is found in most countries of continental Europe except Scandinavia. It is also found in north Africa, central Asia as far as eastern India and China and most of the Middle East.
"Its favoured habitat is open, dry and relatively flat country with low, sparse vegetation. It doesn't like to feel hemmed in and so is also attracted to areas such as playing fields, railway yards and even harbours provided there are grass seeds available."

Most on-line versions of the 1911 Encyclopaedia were scanned and converted to text files using OCR software which occasionally scrambles words.Tom Radulovich 00:20, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Definately plausible. I'd hate to say, incorrectly, that it was there based on plausiblity. Anyone have access to an early Encyc. Brit.? Can we otherwise document this bird in the area? Do we even need to (Will it add anything to the article?)
I should point out that I already changed that -4.5 thing based on it seeming likely. TomCerul 19:54, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The wikipedia article maintains that the Crested Lark's range extends from Portugal to northeast China, which would include the Gobi.
The "Mongolia's Wild Heritage" web site ([2]) lists the Crested Lark as living in the Gobi. Tom Radulovich 00:35, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Cool, thanks for doing the legwork! I'm convinced the bird is there. TomCerul 13:59, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Jargon[edit]

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the "Sands of the Gobi" section. Could anyone explain the terms or simplify them? Wood Thrush 01:30, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Southwest[edit]

Southwest[edit]

by the Tibetan Plateau to the southwest, and by the North China Plain to the southwest. Which one southwest is correct? --Nomad 195.182.95.61 16:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Qinghai?[edit]

Is Qinghai part of the Gobi Desert as well? The Chinese provinces that include the Gobi Desert are not spelled out well here. Badagnani 01:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Location[edit]

The map does not show the boundaries of the gobi desert --Thomasdelbert 17:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC) The map does not show the boundaries of the gobi desert -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.184.208.1 (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Links[edit]

A added a link to the desert article. Finn zee Fox 03:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Remove "Sands of the Gobi Deserts"[edit]

This blabber (from britannica 1911, I assume) talks about all kinds of sandy areas, most of which have nothing at all to do with the Gobi (there's very little sand there anyway). Will there be any loud complaints if I just remove it? That would make room for someone to add specific information about the few sandy patches in the Gobi proper, such as Khongoryn els. --Latebird 07:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Clarify Gobi expansion cost[edit]

"This loss of farmland has caused an estimated $50 billion in losses each year for China's economy."

Does this sentence mean that every year that $50 billion more is lost to desertification than the year previously? (Seems high, doesn't it?) Or that $50 billion is lost each year (since some "base" year? Which year would that be?)

Is this the cost of lost farmland production? Or of a number of other factors as well.

A citation would be nice.

Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 14:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Mining[edit]

I looked on Google Earth and found signs of mining near the great wall. I then did a little searching and found that there has been a mining "boom" in Mongolia; specifically in the Gobi desert. Looks like they are mining gold and copper. Here's 1 of many sources. Just type in gobi desert mine in google and you can find many more sources. http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/10/14/business/tugrik.php Dreammaker182 (talk) 03:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Mongolian name[edit]

My understanding is that govi does not really mean "gravel-covered plain", but rather someting like semidesert, more like what can be seen here. I would even argue that it describes a vegetation zone rather than a geological feature. Yaan (talk) 11:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

In my understanding Govi means desert/semidesert = winter grazelands with almost no grass in summer, but not a tal (steppe) = summer grazelands with usual summer grass vegetation. In fact tamarix or saxaul bushes are the semidesert/desert indicators and a complex of desertal flora and fauna. Govi definitely includes semidesertal territories too - very often called desert steppes. Dundgovi aimag includes only semideserts (south from its capital Mandalgovi), but named Middle Govi. Sand dunes areas are included in Govi too if are not isolated inside the steppes. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 12:48, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

temperatures[edit]

-40 degrees C is not equivalent to -40 degrees F. I suspect the Fahrenheit number is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.101.175.157 (talk) 21:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

-40 degrees C is equivalent to -40 degrees F, at least according to the formula at Fahrenheit. Yaan (talk) 10:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


Fahrenheit should be included. 98.245.148.9 (talk) 22:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Which is why we use the {{convert|−40|°C}} template, or Template:Convert. --HXL's Roundtable and Record 00:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


A change of 35 °C is 63 °F, not 95 °F. When converting ranges, you do not add/subtract 32. Bregittko (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from Gogreengal, 24 April 2011[edit]

Please add to Gobi desert page the fact that the Bactrian Camel(Camelus ferus) is native to this area. Sources: iucnredlist.org

Gogreengal (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Will think of an appropriate place to put it. Technically already in the section "Conversation, ecology, economy", so I will add it to the lede, which is not enough of a summary. Thanks for the suggestion though. --HXL's Roundtable and Record 00:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Why is Cold desert a redirect to this article?[edit]

The page Cold desert is a redirect to Gobi Desert. The Gobi may be a big cold desert, or even the biggest, but it is not the only cold desert. It seems that cold desert should, at the least, redirect to cold desert climate instead, although that itself is only a redirect to a subsection in the desert climate article and would create a double redirect. Ideally a standalone article on the cold desert climate type is needed. Any ideas to fix this in the short term, besides the obvious of creating the cold desert climate article? Darkest tree (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead and redirect it to [[Desert climate#Cold desert climates]]. —Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 贡献 (C) 02:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Done, thank you. Darkest tree (talk) 17:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 November 2012[edit]

Hello. Propose adding the following sentences immediately after '... Oyuu Tolgoi, about 80 kilometers from the Chinese border into Mongolia, are being investigated for development as mining operations.':

'[for development as mining operations.] The Oyu Tolgoi copper and gold mine, under construction by Rio Tinto in the South Gobi Desert, is expected to begin operation in early 2013, and is the biggest economic undertaking in the country's history. Rio Tinto estimates that taxes, royalties and dividends generated by the Oyu Tolgoi project is expected to add a third to the country's gross domestic product by 2020. Rio Tinto forecasts average annual production of 450,000 tonnes of copper and 330,000 ounces of gold, and with 1.4 billion tonnes of reserves and a resource of 3.1 billion tonnes, the mine is expected to last for more than 50 years. [source: http://www.riotinto.com/ourproducts/21018_oyu_tolgoi.asp, accessed 20 Nov 2012]

The mine has been and remains controversial. There is significant opposition in Mongolia's parliament to the terms under which the mine will proceed, and some are calling for the terms to be renegotiated. Specifically, the contention revolves primarily around the question of whether negotiations were fair (Rio Tinto is far better resourced) and whether Rio Tinto will pay adequate taxes on the revenues it derives from the mine (an agreement was reached whereby the operation will be exempt from windfall tax. [source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-20/rio-to-open-mammoth-mongolian-mine/4381178, accessed 20 Nov 2012]' Mr Pyjama (talk) 01:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Done Thank you! Vacationnine 02:47, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 December 2012[edit]

i want to edit this information please. I am a Professor at a college and i majored in geography all over the world.

Sincerely nickypro. Nickypro (talk) 02:58, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2015[edit]

8 Curiosiy

Reinhold Messner , in 2004 to almost 60 years , was the first man to cross it on foot , instead Paolo Pirozzi , in 2007 , was the first man to cross riding a motorcycle , a Ducati Multistrada 620 as standard .

9 Notes

79.26.166.80 (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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