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Screenshots[edit]

I just have a question about the screenshots. Were they just lifted from a website (probably the developer's)? If so, we can't use them. Since this is a PS2 game, I highly doubt those are actual screen grabs—they're too high resolution. If they are legit, the information proving they are legit needs to be put on the image's pages. Just saying they're fair use doesn't cut it. Say where they came from and the reason they're okay to use. If they're not legit, they need to be deleted.

If they are, in fact, legit, they'd be better spread around the article with Good Captions(tm). A gallery of images with no descriptions is non-standard and next to useless. Good screengrabs with nice, informative captions are a great boon. Frecklefoot | Talk 20:31, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Not that anyone probably cares anymore, but chances are those are legit screengrabs, probably from progressive scan mode (which is higher resolution) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.184.19 (talk) 16:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Those other gods of war[edit]

It's funny that we have an article on this video game at the default "God of War" article when I'd expect a disambiguation page instead. Maybe we should like to one that has a list of gods of war from various religions and mythologies? -- LGagnon 21:51, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

If we had such an article, it would be under God of war, not God of War. Capitalization makes the difference here. Only titles of works of fiction, like this, have a title with other capitals than the first word on wikipedia. Right now, God of war is a redirect to this page, but if you feel so inclined, you could make it a general article on war deities, or a disambig page. Fieari 01:38, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

There should be a God of war disabiguation page with Gods from different religions.--193.188.109.237 14:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

There has been one for 6 months you silly sods. Fixed up :) Does this article still need the cleanup tag?? It looks pretty good to me. --Cornflake pirate 07:38, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I removed the strikes that Cornflake pirate added. Normally, I don't think one should strike out other people's comments. It makes it look like they have changed their position and it makes the text harder to read for those who come later. -- Kjkolb 16:51, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh! I'm sorry. I'm still a bit of a n00b when it comes to wiki-etiquette :) --Cornflake pirate 14:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Changes to the Japanese version[edit]

PLEASE, someone with the Japanese version help me out with the edits section! I'm just going by what I've seen on the website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.184.19 (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

could this be made more objective? It sounds like a advertisment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.62.186 (talk) 05:22, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Movie section[edit]

Is there a source of any kind that can be cited for this section? It sounds a lot like illegitimate rumors to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.115.69 (talk) 23:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

someone should think about makin a movie of this game...i would so watch it :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.90.247.9 (talk) 02:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
God of war is an epic game. If a movie is made of it then it should be directed by an epic directer. Troy and Gladiator are epic films and the god of war film should have the same epic feel. One directer that should not ever be involved in the making of the God of war movie is Uwe boll. He displayed interest in the film and when I heared that I drove my fist through the wall. He would completely deastroy the film. Brett rattner was said to have been a choice for directer. Don't let him direct the film. The Rush hour films are good but those were comedy films. His X-men3 film was not good. If he can't make a good full on action film then he should not be allowed to direct God of war. Get an epic directer. Oh and I know my spelling is shit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.148.188 (talk) 15:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Myth[edit]

Why doesn't anybody says something about the "incorrect" vision of the myth in this game? Great, the game is awesome, handsome and much more "somes", but it does not obey the neither Homero or Hesiodo or anything, it's like the autor greek myth. Am I wrong? Sorry if my english isn't too good, I am a brasilian folk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.17.165.68 (talk) 19:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

It's a fictional story. It's not supposed to be correct. It uses elements of Greek myth to create a new one. --Vyran 22:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Content to be merged[edit]

Desert of Lost Souls[edit]

The AfD for the above article just closed with the request that it's text be merged into God of War. Because there is only one paragraph, I am copying it here. Will someone knowledgeable in this area please merge? Thanks. Babajobu 06:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

"In the PS2 game God of War, the Desert of Lost Souls is where Sirens and Pandora's Temple reside. Through the game you will come to a challenge where you must kill three Sirens to proceed. It is called "the Desert of Lost Souls" due to the fact that all the men who have entered have never returned, and also note that while in the desert trying to find the Sirens you must "follow the cry of the Sirens" in order to find them. This is tricky because you will always hear it and also two of the Sirens summon Minotaurs. After defeating the Sirens you come across the last Titan, Kronos. Who carries the ancient Pandora's Temple on his back as punishment by the king of all gods Zeus until the sand shreds his skin from his body."

Blades of Chaos[edit]

This article should also be moved here per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blades of Chaos. The most recent revision can be found here. Have fun. — Mar. 3, '06 [06:46] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Do we need...or even want...review quotes?[edit]

"I feel totally comfortable saying that God of War is the best action game ever to grace the PS2. The gameplay, graphics, sound, production, presentation, and story are excellent. It all adds up to an epic Greek adventure where you can execute some of the slickest moves in gaming.
Quoting a professional review to demonstrate aspects or opinions of the game is good, but these quotes in a section by themselves, essentially Woo! (the positive ones) and Ehh. (the mixed/negative ones) don't really seem to add any information or enjoyment to the article. Agree or disagree? TransUtopian 01:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The Old Gravedigger[edit]

I myself have never played God of War, but reading that there's a god that looks like an old man,l and calls Kratos son, I think of Oranos. I don't know, is there any merit in this theory? (or at least enough to add it to the article?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserNameless (talkcontribs) 00:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

That's stemmed from voice actor Paul Eiding providing the voices of both the Gravedigger and Zeus (not Oranos),and it's been suggested in numerous plot summaries that the Gravedigger was,in fact,Zeus himself keeping an eye on Kratos' progress. But can't say for sure as I'm not aware of any sources. SpartanGlory1983 (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC) SpartanGlory1983

Australian Version[edit]

Does anyone know if the Australia/NZ version of the game has the same censorship as the European version or is it the same as the American version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.1.220 (talk) 23:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes it does. --Cornflake pirate 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

External links[edit]

Too many - which do we keep and which do we remove? Havok (T/C/c) 19:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Move Request[edit]

It was requested that this article be renamed but the procedure outlined at WP:RM#How to request a page move did not appear to be followed, and consensus could not be determined. Please request a move again with proper procedure if there is still a desire for the page to be moved. Thank you for your time! -- tariqabjotu 19:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Soundtrack Exists?[edit]

According to IGN (http://music.ign.com/articles/599/599201p1.html#), some kind of bonus CD of the soundtrack was released. Since the game won so many "best score" awards, its release is obvious. But no soundtrack is on Amazon, Froogle, or eBay. Is this a legitimate product and if so where do I get it? Once confirmed, this would be good info for the Wiki entry, as other games have information about their soundtracks/scores. -Keithustus 22:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so there is a wiki page about the soundtrack but I didn't see a link to it from the game page, so added a See Also section and put the link in for that page. Now to test the Sony Sonic Stage to see if it is still available there. - Keithustus 09:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Phone Number[edit]

After completing the game, there is a phone number given as a series of numbers splayed about the screen. Does anybody have a screen grab of this? If not, the number itself should be included as trivia, since its a recording of Jaffe and Kratos, or rather Kratos on Jaffe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.66.6 (talk) 22:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Athena's Blades[edit]

Shouldn't we mention that Athena gives Kratos new weapons after Ares stripped him of his Blades of Chaos. I'm afraid I can't remember what the weapons are called right now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grant the Wise (talkcontribs) 17:06, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

They're called "Athena's Blades" (yeah,I'm serious). SpartanGlory1983 (talk) 10:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC) SpartanGlory1983
I have added a reference to the Blades of Athena in the Plot section. Hope that suffices ^_^. A Prodigy ~In Pursuit of Perfection~ 17:14, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

This is a total Wank-off article[edit]

With a statement like "God of War sports one of the most advanced graphics presentations for the PS2.", This article is masturbating itself to this horrible game. It is just my opinion, but there are other games that look alot better than this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.247.116 (talk) 06:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

This is why Wikipedia requires all information to be sourced, and not someone's opinion. -HumanZoom 10:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


It reads like an ad to me too. In fact, when searching google, it was a sponsored link for God Of War. -Guest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.13.69.3 (talk) 01:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: God of War for PSP[edit]

It says that God of War for PSP was stated in an AD at the end of God of War 2. This information has to be false since GoW2 has yet to be released. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.199.192.119 (talk) 16:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

GOW for PSP God of war (psp) is advertised on the back of the manual for God of War II. Advance copies of the game and manual are in the hands of video game review sites and this information was revealed by 1up. I have begun the GOWPSP article here at Wiki. KsprayDad 19:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

usage of ps2 power[edit]

does this game use 100% of the ps2s power like its sequel —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.169.25 (talk) 01:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

I'm not entirely sure. If you are able to, compare the graphics between I and II. If they look more or less the same, then you have your answer :-). A Prodigy ~In Pursuit of Perfection~ 17:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Japanese Release / Censorship section[edit]

Can anyone add the Japanese release date information to this article. It is oddly missing.

Nevermind, I got it.

Also, the following paragraph provides a link to Capcom's GOW site (I'm assuming they had something to do with the Japanese release) stating that it shows a video of the censored women in the game. I was unable to find such a video. Can someone please point it out to me or has the video been removed (and therefore the link needs to be removed as well)?

The American and European version features two topless women, whom Kratos can have sex with (while the camera views a vase on an end table, which is eventually toppled by all the goings-on). A video on the game's Japanese website reveals that, in the Japanese release, these women wear lacy tops instead. Also, the Oracle of Athens no longer wears a transparent shirt as she does in the American and European release. Furthermore, in the Japanese version it is impossible to harm the humans who run around during the early stages of the game.

Thanks, HumanZoom 10:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I, nor it seems anyone else, has been able to find sources for this information. I say we delete it from the article. Any objections? HumanZoom 00:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Neither seeing how anyone has come up with a source nor has anyone objected to this information being deleted, I have nixed it from the article. If you find a source please feel free to re-add the information back. Thanks, HumanZoom 07:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I was a bit surprised to not find any text about the censoring of the European version in the article. I speficially mean the human sacrifice, where the US version has a human, but the EU version has you sacrificing an undead soldier. I seem to recall the article containing some info about this at some point, but I could not find it anymore. It does seem like a valid point to include in the article, especially since it changes a moral dillema into essentially a non-issue (you kill undead soldiers by the dozen anyway, who cares about frying one more). NightWhistler 14 september 2007 —Preceding undated comment added 14:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Old PS2?[edit]

Does this game work with an old PS2 model? It won't work on mine or any of my friends models, however, it works on thier slim PS2 models.Michael Cook 01:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

A lot of the old PS2's have trouble running games in general (since the gears get worn and causes the laser not to read the disk properly). Could it just be a case of bad PS2s? Do any other newer games play on your PS2? I can dust off my old one to see if it will play my copy of the game, but last time I picked up my PS2 it wasn't playing any game very well (old or new). -HumanZoom 02:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The old ps2 plays Mortal Kombat Arrmagedeon and Naruto Uzumaki Chronicles quite well, it just won't play god of war. which is very idiosyncraticMichael Cook 18:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah and from what I've heard about its backwards compatibility, I bet a PS3 can't play it either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Link's Awakening (talkcontribs)

What have you heard about its backwards compatibility? God of War plays just fine on my PS3 and in 480p no less. -HumanZoom 01:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Both GoWs work fine on my PS3. SpartanGlory1983 (talk) 10:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC) SpartanGlory1983

Works on mine(ye olde ps2) :) John.n-irl 08:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
God of War 1 works perfectly well on my PS2, and it's almost 8 years old. A Prodigy (talk) 14:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Adding Medusa as boss[edit]

My rationale for adding Medusa as a boss monster as opposed to just another enemy:

1) Unique name and appearance--There is only one Medusa in the game; the other enemies which resemble her are simply "gorgons," in the plural. Likewise, she has a unique color scheme, whereas all of the other gorgons are colored identically.

2) Unique fight-- The player will only ever fight Medusa once, as opposed to encountering numerous Meduas throughout the game.

3) Must fight in order to pass area; unique reward-- Although there are numerous instances wherein Kratos must kill numerous enemies to pass a given area, he must only fight Medusa in a one-on-one battle to pass through. In addition, in exchange for killing her, he receives a unique item.

4) Mention in GOWII-- The fight with Medusa is significant enough to be mentioned in GOWII as a small plot element.209.169.73.213 04:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

That opening paragraph was a plug.[edit]

Did we really need to say which other games were in the 3rd Person Action Genre? Edit'd ~~Lazyguy~~I r needing userboxes plz! 13:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


Ripoff of Rygar[edit]

Is there a place somewhere in this article to point out the similarities between this game and the PS2 game Rygar? Here's a YouTube link that compares the two. For all of the praise that God of War has received for its originality, the comparisons between it and Rygar are pretty hard to ignore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.128.192.4 (talk) 17:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It's a similar setting with a similar engine? I was expecting something a little more substantial. But anyway, it would just be original research to speculate in the article. --77.99.30.226 19:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Umm... How about the fact that God of War was being produced for quite a long time, most likely before Rygar was released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jigsaw 541 (talkcontribs) 18:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Or aspects of Rygar are derived from Greek mythology. Spartan198 (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Spartan198

i agree completely. God of war has many similarities with Rygar. Rygar came out in 2002 God if War came out in 2005 anyone who says that god of war couldnt have been influenced by rygar is insane. the settings ARE similar. there is no gameplay section right since is ridiculous. someone need to put in a section about the gameplay about also put is like rygar. IT NEEDS TO BE SAID!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.237.139 (talk) 03:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

God Of War Wiki[edit]

How would I add a link to the God of War wiki to this page? DarkLordofSith (talk) 20:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Use this code, God of War Wiki. Click on the edit icon at the top-right of this message section so you can see the link in its raw form (or just use edit page at the top). Simply copy-paste it into the External Links section, just like the other site addresses listed there. Hope that helps, Blooded Edge Sign/Talk 21:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Trying to add the link, but someone undid my revision. Will re-add and hopefully it will stay there. Punkalyptic (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Removed again as link is to an unreliable third-party source with no checks and balances. Not to mention being a closed link (difficult to get back to original page). Thanks. Bluerim (talk) 06:06, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Excuse me, but all external wikis are third-party sources, maintained by fans. This is no exception, and several other external wikis are listed as external links in various wikipedia pages. I don't see how it can't be added, unless you can find a more "reliable" external GoW wiki by your standards. Punkalyptic (talk) 07:53, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Plot section[edit]

I originally used the language "Ares is informed of Kratos' success..." because in the relevant cutscene during the game, it shows a harpy seeing Kratos in the temple, then sort of fluttering around Ares' head, then Ares going "a-ha!" This time I have replaced it with a more neutral "learns of Kratos' success" (as opposed to "senses Kratos' success").

Are you sure? I must have watched that cutscene a dozen times, yet I've never spotted one. However, I'll take your word for it, may watch the scene again later to see if I can spot it, but meh. Blooded Edge (TCA) 14:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

About the mention of the individual weapons...I still think it's not important to mention the names of each weapon in the Plot section, where we could just say something general like "his weapons and powers"; and it to me it seems especially unimportant to mention the Blades of Athena, which are more a piece of trivia than an integral part of the plot (just my personal opinion). But I think the way you have it written now avoids any problems with that; the main thing I objected to was the sentence at the end that said "The Blades of Athena are like the Blades of the Gods, but with a glowing tinge," which really did not need to be there, but that has been removed and not reinstated so that's ok. Of course, the Blades of the Gods would deserve more mention in the Plot section if we could prove that they are important to peoples' perception of the game (for example, several reviews in which the title or something else very prominent says something like "Kratos and his badass swords"—the crucial thing is whether or not the Blades of the Gods are something by which people identify this game). As it is, I'm trying to find a way to mention them earlier (preferably in the first paragraph) without adding tons of backstory, as the way the section reads now is a bit confusing (with them being mentioned all of a sudden, near the very end). —Politizertalk • contribs ) 13:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Weapons sounds too vague, a non-game-playing person may look at that and think Kratos uses a simple sword and etc. The Blades of Chaos are important, as they serve as a reminder to Kratos throughout the game of his past atrocities. The removal of the Blades, and the gifting of new ones by Athena are almost symbollic. Leaving the old behind, and starting afresh. When people read "an ancient sword", they'll want to know if it has a name. Thats why singling it out as the Blade of the Gods is important. All these little details are important, and should not be overlooked. I know you want to keep this section small, but in some cases, it cannot be helped and detail is necessary. Blooded Edge (TCA) 14:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, everything you've pointed out about the importance of the removal of the Blades and Athena's gifting of new ones is speculation and OR, not fact. I agree that there's deep symbolism in the whole thing, but unless you can cite a reliable source also commenting on the symbolism.
As for the Blade of the Gods, I capitalized Gods not because it's the word "god," but because it's in the proper name or title of the swords, and it seems to be the standard in this article to talk about those. Blades of Chaos have also been capitalized, and I assume Chaos is not a proper noun (unless there's some mythological creature they're named after and I'm forgetting that). Also, is it ever referred to by the name Blade of the Gods by the characters themselves (i.e., in a cutscene or something)? It's been a while since I played that part of the game, but as far as I remember the only time you see their name is during gameplay (with a message like "You have received the Blade of the Gods" or something like that), and if that is so, then the name of the sword is more a gameplay detail than a plot element. I agree that the sword should be identified somehow, and earlier I tried to work in a brief explanation of how it was a bridge and stuff (so it wouldn't seem so much like deus ex machina to a reader who hasn't played the game), but I couldn't figure out a way to work it in seamlessly. —Politizertalk • contribs ) 14:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
In the same way you ask when did the players call it the Blade of the Gods, I personally do not remember anyone calling it an ancient sword (maybe my memory fails me), and in the same way I can ask you for a reference backing up your claim. I don't feel that is an entirely intelligent way of going about things, but hey. If you open up the main menu during the second fight with Ares, you'll clearly see the icon for the Blade of the Gods labelled as such. Hence why I am comfortable with calling it so. You may call it a gameplay detail, but it is very relevant to the plot. Kratos did not kill Ares with a branch cut off a tree, if you see what I mean. One has to go into the specifics, things are made more complicated, and more questions asked if we try to keep things simple. By naming everything and etc, we won't confuse people. The only thing regarding the Blade of the Gods I would say is irrelevant, is trying to describe its use as a bridge early on, as that has nothing to do with the plot. Blooded Edge (TCA) 14:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying it's hard to verify that the sword is called Blade of the Gods; I'm just saying that, if it's only presented in menus and other in-gameplay messages, the actual name of the sword is not as important to the plot as if it had been mentioned by characters or other story elements. But I have no further problems with the way it's currently introduced in the article.
The sentence "Kratos' main weapons, the Blades of Chaos, serve as a painful reminder to him of his past atrocities," is more about interpretation than plot, and again, it needs to be written from an out-of-universe perspective (such as "X sees the Blades of Chaos as a reminder of Kratos' past atrocities"). A better way to introduce the weapons would probably be with something like (in the previous sentence) "Kratos had formerly been a servant of Ares and had received his weapons, the Blades of Chaos, from him," or the wording I had before (in the next paragraph), "After fighting through Athens using his Blades of Chaos, a pair of powerful weapons given to him by Ares when he was still in the god's service..." —Politizertalk • contribs ) 14:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad we've reached an agreement then. As for your comment on the Blades of Chaos, the narrator says those exact words. I can't remember which cutscene where she says it in, but I think its in the one where he first gets them. Also, there is another cutscene in the Pandora's Temple levels where Kratos, after killing some monsters, looks at his chains in disgust and throws them to the floor. Before having one of his freakish flashbacks. Hence why I worded it in that manner. Blooded Edge (TCA) 14:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I see; that does ring a bell now. I would say cite it, except that Wikipedia doesn't really have really have a standard for citing video game cutscenes and dialogue, so there's not much we can do there. Anyway, it still seems to me like the sentence is, while important to Kratos' character, is not important to the plot itself (the fact that the swords are a reminder of his past, doesn't really affect where the story goes). I think the best wording would be something like "While in the service of Ares, Kratos is given the Blades of Chaos, which throughout the story continue to serve as a reminder of his past" (I don't know why, but for some reason that wording seems less in-universe to me than the other does, even though it's almost exactly the same)—I'll try to look into finding a good way to work that wording in without totally messing up the flow of what's already there. —Politizertalk • contribs ) 15:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, all these citation requirements are getting me down. I like the sound of your suggested sentance, although I (like you) still feel that it is nonetheless pretty much in the same context as my existing one. So switching the two wouldn't make (if any) a difference. Anything else you want to address? Blooded Edge (TCA) 15:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism Removal[edit]

I removed numerous dead-end links and a buttload of Arabic (or something) text from the very bottom (beneath the "God of War Series" spoiler-opener thingy) of all five God of War game pages. I couldn't note it here earlier because I had sudden server issues and couldn't get Wikipedia to open. Spartan198 (talk) 08:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Spartan198

I have said this on your talk page and in my edit summaries, but again, do not remove the non-English "buttload of Arabic" links at the bottom; those are links between different language versions of this article, and are not spam. —Politizer talk/contribs 14:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Character voices[edit]

Shouldn't there be added information on who provides the voice work for God of War? On other video game pages the voice talent actor is listed next to the character's name the first time it appears in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.2.7.218 (talk) 21:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Only if someone has a valid source for it. Many video game pages have voice actors listed and people constantly change stuff and revert one another because they all have different sources and their sources are all terrible. So there's no point destabilizing the article unless someone brings a good source. —Politizer talk/contribs 22:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, silly me, I have a source right here. The instruction book lists voice actors. Incidentally, it also lists motion capture actors, but I don't think I've ever seen them listed in WP articles. Seems a little unfair, doesn't it? Hm. —Politizer talk/contribs 22:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Incidentally, Shadow of the Colossus and Final Fantasy X, both FAs, don't list voice actors. —Politizer talk/contribs 22:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't see the harm in listing them, would boost the quality of the article. Blooded Edge (TCA) 17:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Length of time spent in the Temple[edit]

The Plot section used to say that "most" of the game occurs within the Temple. Personally, I think that this isn't right; Kratos doesn't even enter the Temple until about the halfway point in the game--where he blows the horn to call for Chronos. Anybody else feel differently? toll_booth (talk) 03:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Change it to "much" or something if it's a problem. I don't think it's a huge deal. Politizer talk/contribs 04:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see you already did. That looks fine to me. Politizer talk/contribs 04:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Awards[edit]

This part is way too long, the reception part of the article could also use a little more depth, such as some negatives and critism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.159.69 (talk) 07:54, 27 May 2009

Influences?[edit]

David Jaffe said in an interview with Gamespot during the e3 of the year previous to the game's launch (if i recall correctly) that he wanted to mix together games with puzzles like Ico with action games like Onimusha and Devil May Cry. Shouldn't that be added to this article? Fskn (talk) 13:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC) EDIT: That video is here: http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar/video/6098822/ Fskn (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to add it. Just remember to properly cite your source within the article (using a footnote). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 17:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I would! But I'm afraid my english is not good enough for that.Fskn (talk) 09:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Action / Adventure or Beat Em Up?[edit]

When I first saw "God of War," my initial gut reaction is that it was a new version of a "beat-em-up," but in reading this article, I see that it's characterized as "action adventure." Following the link for "action adventure," I see that this game type is very vague, and calling this game action adventure" tells you next to nothing about it, besides its story. I think this is more like a beat em up with puzzles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhan41 (talkcontribs) 19:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

How is that suggestion any less vague than "action-adventure"? I think "action-adventure" is perfectly accurate, and encompasses more aspects of the game than "beat-em-up with puzzles" (for example, the fact that there are skills/powerups).
Also keep in mind that a mere genre label should be vague. Knowing what large genre a game is stuck into is no replacement for actually reading what the game is about. Genres are for categorization only, not for description. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 19:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

"Cultural impact"[edit]

Just a drive by comment, but calling "critical reception" and "awards" "cultural imapct" seems a little pretentious and more than a little out of place. 128.250.5.246 (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, and have changed it. Thanks for pointing this out. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Track Listing not visible[edit]

There's an empty space where the tracklisting should be. I can't tell what's wrong with the syntax, or if there's another problem. Maybe someone else can have a look? Remcovlaanderen (talk) 10:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

You can click the "show" button to the right of the header to show the tracklist. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Changing order of contents[edit]

I propose to change the contents to Plot, Reception, Soundtrack. Instead of Plot, Soundtrack, Reception. I think now there's too much emphasis on the soundtrack. Remcovlaanderen (talk) 10:32, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

The current order is the de facto standard for video game articles. For some examples, see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines#Example_articles. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

{{Edit semi-protected}} Back and forth revisions between unregistered IPs. It would be best to semi-protect the page to stop edit warring. I noticed this page has been semi-protected once before, so I request to have an extended protection, or make it indefinite. JDC808 (talk) 18:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Not done: {{edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. Please see WP:RFPP to request such protection. Thank you.   — Jeff G.  ツ 19:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Please - the article's description and narrative flow suffers painfully from the word "also" in ridiculously many instances. Allow editing, if only for this task, so it feels informative and not the impressed ranting of a starry eyed player. J.W/ Uppsala Sweden — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.4.198.112 (talk) 00:53, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Recent "Plot" edits[edit]

In regards to the recent edits regarding the addition in the Plot section, I see nothing wrong with adding the information that was added. It may seem as an "extra detail", but as far as the game goes, it's part of the story. JDC808 (talk) 03:38, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Plot summaries are to be concise. Just because it happens doesn't mean its necessary to include in the summary, unless it clearly helps the reader to understand the rest of the summary or the other parts of the article. --MASEM (t) 16:41, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I've shortened the Poseidon mention to only one sentence. JDC808 (talk) 16:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree with JDC808. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.71.208.91 (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Just leaving a vote without explaining the rationale behind your arguments isn't very helpful. Have a look at Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary#What to cut: not everything that happens in a story (whether it be a game, a book, a film, or what have you) belongs in a plot summary. Plot is not the same as narrative; it's not just a listing of every event that happens in the story. In this case, the first level of the game is more of an exposition and a tutorial than part of the plot; it doesn't provide the impetus for the rest of Kratos' adventure. Just because it's a highly-praised part of the game doesn't make it critical to the plot. Have a look at some other video game articles that have been rigorously evaluated; for example, Final Fantasy VIII#Story excludes parts of the game that, although they take up a lengthy amount of gameplay, don't need to be recounted in detail to explain the game's plot. rʨanaɢ (talk) 00:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Should some of the extraneous detail be moved to a gaming wiki, as it could make the article much more readable, while keeping all the detail most readers would need? I would be happy to help with any effort to do so, if others think this would be a good idea. Also, why is this part of wiki-project albums?14jbella (talk) 02:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Disagreement over lead section[edit]

This is issue is actually across multiple articles (God of War II, Betrayal, Chains of Olympus, God of War III, and Ghost of Sparta), but resolving it here should resolve the same issue for the other articles as well.

User Bluerim believes that the second paragraph of the lead section should have a very brief summary of the game as seen here. In the past, I had argued for that version, however, after reviewing WP:LEAD and WP:VG/GL, I believe the summary should be expanded a little more, as seen here.

Which version should be used and is more appropriate for a GA article? Thanks. JDC808 (talk) 05:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Searchtool-80%.png Response to third opinion request:
Hi, this is an interesting question. First of all, I think referring to WP:VG/GL is a good idea. The lead section should summarise the main points of the article, describing the production, commercial success and category of the game as well as mention any points that make the game stand out or unusual in the industry. WP:VG/GL contains this idea: "A general rule of thumb to follow if unsure: If the content only has value to people actually playing the game, it is unsuitable." I'm left thinking, whether e.g. "The player is guided by the goddess Athena" is relevant for people not playing the game so my opinion would tend toward something closer to the short example. One point that I found when searching for information on this subject was this, this and this, namely it seems like the game is a bit controversial for its content. I think this could be something worth considering for inclusion in this article (and to mention in the lead), as it's something that's interesting to non-players (e.g. players' parents!) and sets the game in context in the industry.Dailycare (talk) 20:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I hadn't come across those articles (but they were just posted today). Since those particular articles are about God of War: Ascension, it would seem better suited for those articles to be used on that page, and to find the appropriate articles of "violence against women" pertaining to this particular game (and the others as well). JDC808 (talk) 04:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Recent edits as of July 29, 2012[edit]

1. I left the lead alone. Though I prefer the other version, yours is fine.

2. Image in Gameplay section. It needs to be moved up because (at least on my screen) it breaks into the Plot section.

3. Setting. This is the first game in the series. The section should be introduced as if there weren't any games before it, just like the Gameplay section does. So we shouldn't start the section with "As with other games in the God of War franchise..." For the other games in the series, this is acceptable because there are games that preceded them. This game does not have a game that precedes it and as such should not begin with that statement. Also, with linking Aegean Sea, "Sea" must be included in the wikilink or else the link is a disambiguation page for Aegean.

4. Characters and Audio sections. I've been moving those based on the model established for Chains of Olympus which under Plot, it's Setting, Characters, Story, and then Audio is a sub-section of the Development section. JDC808 (talk) 18:30, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:God of War (video game)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hahc21 (talk · contribs) 02:53, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Review[edit]

JDC, as i will be out of traveling until August 11, i won't be able to review the article i think. If you wish, you can ask another user to go and do the review for me or you can wait until i return and will do the review just arriving home. My apologies. —Hahc21 06:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

DABs and Links
  • No DABs, No dead links. This [1] is considered suspicious by the system, and takes a lot to load, but it's Okay.
Aright.
Lead
  • Lead does not properly mention reception, and has nothing on film and novel.
How is the reception there now?
Novel and film added.
Better, although i'm still unconvinced on why you have to mention the entire series on the lead? You can resume it as "Due to the success of the game, several additional installments have been released on both PlayStation 3 and PSP. A novelization..."
The reason I put them there is because I was using Halo: Combat Evolved (which is FA) as an example which lists the other games.
Gameplay
  • "As a third-person, single-player, fixed camera game" consider writing "..single-player game with a fixed camera design", cuz writing "fixed camera game" implies that "fixed camera" may be a video game genre.
Fixed. Instead of using design, I used presentation. Is that okay?
Plot
  • Good
Cool
Development
  • We have 5 paragraphs that could easily be only two (not counting 'audio' subsection)
Now two paragraphs.
  • "was unique as the games' puzzles were also unique." I consider that it may be "and the game's puzles" instead of "as the game's"
I've done some rewording. How is it?
  • "Jaffe referenced Prince of Persia" in which way?
He was referencing the puzzles of Prince of Persia. I've reworded the beginning of that sentence so it's clearer.
  • You have like two or three sentences starting with "Jaffe also said/claimed/etc" I consider that you may merge them or delete the "also" word, which seems unnecessary and add nothing to the text :)
I've done some rewording. How is it now?
Great but try changing "Because the entire game is presented as a cinematic presentation," to "Because of that" as you explained in the prev sentence that you were talking about the cinematic stuff. —Hahc21 05:37, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Changed.
  • "Jaffe also claimed if players" >> "claimed that if..."
Fixed.
  • Well, this entire section talks about what Jaffe said. There is not more info about the game than what he said? Nothing about the E3 showcase? Reception from the E3 demos? Commentary from IGN? GameSpot? GameInformer? (just asking Face-smile.svg)
I've tried to find sources for development of the game, and this is what I was able to find. I'll try to find more.
Release
  • I merged the paragraphs as a single one
Okay.
  • "featuring remastered ports of both games to PlayStation 3 hardware" >> "for" instead of "to" before PlayStation.
Fixed.
Reception
  • "PAL Gaming Network has also praised the graphics" remove "has"
Removed.
  • "stating they're "superb graphics...arguably the best on the PS2."" >> what if we reword this as "PAL Gaming Network also praised what they called "superb" graphics, considering them as "arguably the best on the PS2."
Done.
  • "Of the little criticism the game has received" >> This may imply both POV and weasel words. It brings kid of nothing to the statement, so i recommend removing it and letting the reader reach this conclusion.
Removed.
  • "and also claimed it as one of the" >> "was" instead of "as"
Changed.
Awards
  • "The game has won over a dozen "Game of the Year Awards"" a period is missing after "Awards"
Woops lol
  • "the game received the award for Action Game of the Year" >> "God of War was named the Action Game of the Year"
Changed.
  • "The game was nominated for Game of the Year" >> "It was also..."
Changed.
  • "history of the PlayStation" >> "history of the console"
Changed.
  • "the game won various awards, including Overall Game of the Year" >> "several" instead of "various"?
Fixed.
Novel
  • I consider that the quote could be a little longer, but i'm not sure.
Should I check the source and make it longer? I should also see if there may be a couple more reviews.
Soudtrack
  • "on CD (58 minutes and 55 seconds in length)" Same as the series, you can add a {{infobox album}} for better clarity and appearance and thus no need for these details on prose. If you add the infobox, deactivate the collapsed=yes feature on the tracklist, and it seems that the words "track listing" are double-bolded, which has to be fixed.
Okay, and un-double bolded. Also, are we sure we want to remove "collapsed=yes"? It's a rather long track list (31 tracks). JDC808 (talk) 04:50, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay no, leave it collapsed haha. I thought the infobox would be longer. —Hahc21 05:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Collapsed lol.
References
  • R#27 has no accesdate, also what does mean PALGN?
Fixed and PALGN is PAL Gaming Network
  • On references, you have Eurogamer and Eurogamer, while in prose you have Eurogamer. Which is correct? (keep consistency)
Fixed.
  • Same as series, you have SCEA and Sony Computer Entertainment of America. Better of you write "Sony Computer.... (SCEA)"
Fixed.
  • R#38 The Hollywood Reporter goes in italics.
Fixed.
  • I see IGN and IGN.com
Fixed.
  • R#24 has no accesdate
Fixed.
  • R#7 "allgame" >> "Allgame"
Fixed.
I've gone through all of the references and correctly formated each one as I recently did with God of War: Chains of Olympus.
Great! Loved references. Cheers.
Awesome. JDC808 (talk) 06:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Verdict[edit]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Passed. —Hahc21 17:36, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks again. JDC808 (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

A-Class assessment[edit]

Requesting assessment for A-Class. --JDC808 04:50, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

TheSixthAxis novel review[edit]

Placing this here in case the source becomes reliable by Wikipedia's standards.

TheSixthAxis reviewer Gastos84 wrote that newcomcers of the series will understand Kratos. The reviewer said that the book describes the characters well, and although some have a bigger part, they all have a defined personality. In the reviewers opinion, "it's the Gods that steal this book" because it is they who "hold the whole thing together." He said that the novel provides a new level of explanation, for example, Athena is responsible for the gods aiding Kratos and the relationship between the gods is explained, which was not during the game. The reviewer did note that because of how frequent the fights are described, readers might "find [themselves] growing tired of certain confrontations." He further elaborated that all of the enemies in the game are accounted for, "but the interest in hearing about every encounter loses its appeal." The reviewer also felt that the sense of scale of the world that the novel provided did not do the game justice. Despite its minor criticism, the reviewer concluded that "Kratos and the God of War name were treated with the respect and understanding they deserved." Gastos84 (December 6, 2010). "Review: God of War Novel". TheSixthAxis. Oscar Mike Media. Retrieved January 6, 2010. 

--JDC808 19:35, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Blades[edit]

You compared them to a flail. Are they more similar to nunchuks? —Torchiest talkedits 02:19, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hm. I don't know. Nunchucks are the two sticks connected together by a chain or rope, the blades are two separate blades that are chained to each wrist and when he swings them, the chains extend from his wrist then retract. The flail seemed more similar because of the way you would attack with it. I don't know if you could see them too well in that last video I had linked you for the desert, but here's a video that you can see them better. He begins to use them at 0:48. [2] --JDC808 02:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Ah, wow, that's not what I thought at all. It looks pretty fun though; too bad they never ported it to PC. :) Anyway, I found out there is an article for chain weapon. Maybe it's similar to something there, or you could just link "chains" to chain weapon. —Torchiest talkedits 05:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Nice, I've never heard of the kusarigama. How'd you find it? --JDC808 07:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Haha, I just looked at the pictures in that chain weapon article and saw it there. —Torchiest talkedits 15:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Error in poster[edit]

On the God of War page, there is a description of the poster, that says Kratos facing Pandora's Temple, however, the poster clearly indicates Kratos overlooking the Olympus, you can observe the red front door. So, it is not Pandora's Temple, is the Olympus. = — Preceding unsigned comment added by LucasMello53 (talkcontribs) 20:25, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Copy edit request response[edit]

Looks excellent to me. Have got to the end of the Development section and have made a couple of minor changes.

In the section on Development, you may like to consider the use of the vague 'and/or' in this phrase: 'which gives players the choice between normal combat, magical attacks, and/or using the QTE feature to kill a foe'. Either the attacks use only one of the features (in which case use 'or') or they may use a combination (in which case, you could just use 'and').

Okay. I'll clarify it. --JDC808 15:03, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Will consider the rest of the article when I have time. RuthLivingstone (talk) 08:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thank you very much. --JDC808 15:03, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

OK, done all I can. Haven't checked within the references, because that is not an area I know anything about. Good article. Hope it gets recognised. RuthLivingstone (talk) 23:29, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. References have already been checked in the current FAC, so no worries there. --JDC808 23:37, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

asking an opportunity[edit]

sir i have a story named lightening war which was written by me if u like 2 listen if will give it 2 u contact tejar9250@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.65.149.245 (talk) 09:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Not to burst your bubble, but this is the wrong place to ask. --JDC808 17:35, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2015[edit]

Under designers, please add the following Todd Papy Scott Rogers Tobin Russell Jo Wright 75.85.5.211 (talk) 19:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Publisher[edit]

I removed supefluous 'publisher' parameters from citations, in line with the recommendations at Template:Cite#Publisher, but User:JDC808 has put them back again, The guidelines recommend against specifying publisher in these cases for the simple reason that it's no use. The purpose of a citation is to allow a reader to find the reference for a claim in the article. Being told, for example, that IGN is owned by Ziff Davis, or that The Hollywood Reporter is published by Prometheus (at the time of that article - the company has since been renamed), is no help whatever for that purpose. So why insist on retaining useless clutter? Colonies Chris (talk) 17:04, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Like I said in my edit summary, no where in that link does it say the publishers needed to be removed. You're saying it's useless clutter, but I see it as giving full credit. I always cite the sources as they've been done here (which has been praised at FAC). Why change that? If it's not broke, don't fix it. --JDC808 17:45, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
'Giving full credit'? That's not what a citation is for, it's not useful, and it's absurd. Are we supposed to be grateful to Prometheus for publishing THR? Colonies Chris (talk) 23:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)