Talk:Godwin's law

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Recent notable occurrences[edit]

I have been informed by a member of the wikimedia foundation that Mike Godwin recently admonished someone for breaking his law in reference to a recent decision to enable lightboxes on the German wikimedia mailing list. I can't find the link, but perhaps some kind editor could do so and post it as a notable example? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Media Matters for America source[edit]


While Godwin's Law is generally used successfully to discourage liberals and leftists from using terms like "Nazi" or "Hitler" to refer to political opponents, it has recently been ignored by many extreme conservative and right-wing political commentators and has increasingly been used as a part of their political discourse.[1]

This reference comes from Media Matters for America, which is known for being ideologically progressive and opposed to conservatives. I'm not sure they count as a neutral source. Faray (talk) 22:24, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

  1. A sourcce doesn't have to be neutral, but this blog does not meet WP:RS, so this source can not be added to the article.
  2. WP:NPOV asks that if you add a non-neutral source, you also add one that shows the other side of the issue to present a balanced neutral poin-of-view. Both have to meet WP:RS.
  3. This quote is not in the blog. It might be in the comments to the blog (too many for me to check), but the comments to a blog post almost never meet WP:RS.
Lentower (talk) 22:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC)



  1. ^ Article: Conservatives Can't Stop Making Nazi References (Mediamaters, March 21, 2014)


  1. If Godwin's law states people will talk about Hitler
  2. and Hitler claimed people would talk about him,
  3. it makes Godwin share Hitler's idea
  4. thus Godwin's law is ultimately Nazi
  5. and we should question its applicability.

sicarius (talk) 21:57, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I think your logic fell apart between steps 3 and 4. I share Hitler's views on a couple of things, smoking for example, but I can assure you I abhor most of his philosophy. Godwin's observation, obviously a pretty true one, makes neither Godwin nor his law Nazi. HiLo48 (talk) 22:25, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

McCulloch's Law[edit]

It has been suggested that an equivalent version should exist for discussions where the opinions of Winston Churchill are positively cited in favour of what would otherwise be a repugnant line of argument. In particular the citing of his views on Islam from 1899 in The River War.

This is only a suggested Social Media Law, it may never catch on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgb62uk (talkcontribs) 19:39, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Gillard's Law?[edit]

Does Gillard's Law deserve a mention or it's own page? First person to shout sexist automatically loses whatever debate was in progress. (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I would say no. Doctorhawkes (talk) 11:38, 21 May 2015 (UTC)