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- 1 Horowitz and the "Stream product"
- 2 Many edited sections for no reason - removing numbers, dates and information
- 3 WSJ: Hangouts no longer part of Google+
- 4 Collections?
- 5 is features section needed
- 6 Blacklisted Links Found on Google+
- 7 Alexa rank
- 8 11/2015 Redesign
- 9 Youtube Integration
- 10 Google + Monetization
- 11 External links modified
- 12 “Google Plus”
Horowitz and the "Stream product"
In looking over the coverage of Bradley Horowitz, it's only clear that the story is unclear. In his blog post, he never mentions Google+. He does say he is taking over Photos and Stream. He does not say what Stream is, and, as Reuters points out, the reference to a Stream product is vague. I couldn't figure out what Stream is either--not online nor from the entry here. Barte (talk) 06:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed. Although media is covering this heavy. Nothing offical has been reported. Bad reporting. Geek4gurl (talk) 17:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
- I think Bradley Horowitz is now doing new things (Area 120), but I've seen no recent announcements as to who has taken over Google Plus and/or Streams. ManosFate (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Many edited sections for no reason - removing numbers, dates and information
I heavily edited this article in 2014 and spent a large amount of time providing information that mirrored facebooks page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Including the top section and adding table of active users and growth, history etc. Many of these items have been removed. Facebook page is not perfect, but provides a good starting place for how a social network's page should be created in wiki. I have re-added them back because they are factual and add value and history. If someone wants to remove these items please use this section to discuss. Geek4gurl (talk) 15:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- I made many of these changes--some of them for the better, perhaps some for the worse. My edits reflected two primary concerns:
- Google+'s basic description ("what is it") is confusing, perhaps reflecting Google's own struggles to describe it. Is Google+ a social network? A social layer? An identity service? Is there a difference between the last two? Those definitions not only get intermingled, but they confuse the idea of what constitutes Google+'s growth.
- Seems to me, the coverage of Google+'s growth, after the initial euphoria, was much more measured, and at times skeptical, than the raw stats we present here. User engagement was an issue early on--those numbers shouldn't be buried. And Google addressed some of these concerns, such as The New York Time's characterizing the service as "a ghost town", by redefining Google+ as a social layer. (I say redefining, because the initial blog post announcement described the service strictly as a social network.) Moreover, the growth stats we present don't explain the subsequent management turnover. Or the recent Forbes interview with Sundar Pichai that says that Google+ will disassembled into parts: stream (I assume the social network, but am not sure), communications (Hangouts), and photos. If Google+ were the success story the growth stats imply, what's going on?
- I have no problem with the article being modeled after the Facebook entry. My concern is more that the narrative be clearer and better reflect the often skeptical coverage from notable secondary sources. Barte (talk) 16:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- I've edited according to the above, consolidating, rather than deleting, material where possible. Large deletions were of duplicate paragraphs. See what you think. Barte (talk) 03:30, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
WSJ: Hangouts no longer part of Google+
According to this 3/4/15 Wall Street Journal report, "Hangouts was previously moved out of Google+. It now reports to Nick Fox, who is rethinking Google’s messaging strategy as was first reported by tech blog The Information." Anyone have any evidence to the contrary? If this is the case, Hangouts remains a part of Google+ history, but not current functionality, and the sections describing it as such should be deleted. Barte (talk) 17:56, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
is features section needed
It practically brags all the features on the site. Features that no longer exists are also listed. Even tiny and irrelevant featured are written. I think only major features should be listen and everything else should be removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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- The offending link and accompanying article text both removed, along with the tag. Barte (talk) 05:37, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
An Alexa rank is pretty pointless for subdomains of google.com. All the traffic could going to finance.google.com instead of plus.google.com, but the Alexa rank won't differentiate and therefore tells us nothing about Google plus.184.108.40.206 (talk) 03:14, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
I know it's early but I don't see reference to the 2015 Redesign. I'm not sure where to add it structure-wise though. Advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosmicdreams (talk • contribs) 15:34, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
- I added a note on the redesign to the intro and body. The is still pretty vague--more on emphasis than specifics. We can expand when the redesign fully rolls out and secondary source publications write about them. Long-term, the redesign might require some paring of our lengthy description, as it's apparent not all G+ functions will live on. Barte (talk) 17:27, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, as per the last sentence in the article, it says you cannot unlink the G+ account yet without it deleting your youtube account. But for the past couple of months or so, it's been safe to delete the google+ account and the youtube page will remain intact, any comments you made that were crossposted to g+ will remain on youtube too. They made unlinking and deleting of the g+ account nice and easy, but i have no citations heh.220.127.116.11 (talk) 04:28, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- Given that the sentence said that was coming (back in 7/15), I removed it. Truth is--the Features and Functions section as a whole is out of date. Barte (talk) 05:14, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
AFAIK, the last time I checked on my YouTube account (which I never linked to Google+), I am not allowed to comment on a video unless I create a Google+ page and link it to my account. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 07:46, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Google + Monetization
How does Google + make money? I know Google doesn't need Google + to make money but how do they do it? Any credible sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 00:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- I believe several of Google's services are not making money, but rather help Google in building its portfolio. I don't have any sources, so these are not facts, but I think Google prioritizes having a foot in all kinds of services rather than making a huge profit on all of them. I think Google+, Calendar, Keep, and a few more are not themselves profitable, but by having them and making valuable updates ("Goals" in Calender, just for example) gets users further into the Google eccosystem and gives Google more data about the person, which in turn enables profitability through ads in search. Again, personal thoughts and not sourced facts. Just wanted you to at least get an answer in case nobody else replies. LocalNet (talk) 03:04, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- I think so too. Google is one of a few companies that offer many overlapping services, the others being MS, Facebook and Apple. Google just wants to offer most of the services that these competitors offer. It's not about a single service but about the ecosystem of services. PizzaMan (♨♨) 06:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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