Talk:Governor General of Canada

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This article, like the GG office, is trying to "Canadianize" the monarchy. This may be noble, but it is worrisome that the office (and many commentators that support this movement) can ignore the constitution's crystal clear determination on the matter. The claim that the Militia Act give the title of commander-and-chief to the GG may be true, but that Act cannot trump the constitution. Before 1982, it was possible to argue that the Militia Act and the British North America Act were of equal status. After the repatriation in 1982, this ambiguity was no longer possible. Likewise, the royal proclaimation by the King indicating that the GG as commander in chief is also of no legal effect as a royal proclaimation cannot change the law or the constitution. If the King could change the constitution unilaterally it would no longer be a constitutional monarchy! The two absolutely clear and relevant constitutional passages are as follows:

1. The Constitution Act, 1867 "s. 15 The Command-in-Chief of the Land and Naval Militia, and of all Naval and Military Forces, of and in Canada, is hereby declared to continue and be vested in the Queen."

2. Constitution Act, 1982: "s. 52. (1) The Constitution of Canada is the supreme law of Canada, and any law that is inconsistent with the provisions of the Constitution is, to the extent of the inconsistency, of no force or effect."

The Governor General's Office and wikipedia should reflect what the constitution says, rather what some wish that it said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaperBill (talkcontribs) 18:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Canadian English[edit]

I recently changed the article to normal Canadian English spelling, since it has strong national ties to Canada, but since my change was reverted, I would like to start a discussion on it. Specifically I would like to the article to use -ize instead of -ise. See WP:ENGVAR, WP:CANSTYLE and Canadian English#Spelling and dictionaries for why -ize is preferable in articles relating to Canada. Indefatigable (talk) 01:54, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Unnecessary source[edit]

One issue that is quite special to be worth an entry if it meets the guidelines below, or if an acceptable subject of specific standards included in the base, this does not guarantee that an issue needed to manage as a separate, stand-alone page! The authors may at their option to merge or to group two or more related topics in a single section and Only if an item has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the specific matter, is considered to be encyclopedic. By the other way, verifiable information and content that is not supported by many independent sources may be suitable for inclusion in another section. -- (talk) 02:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Adrienne Clarkson - visible minority[edit]

She was the first from a visible minority,. It's of interest which minority. If we're going to mention it at all, there's no reason to be vague and require people to go elsewhere to look it up. I've added a few words explaining it. (talk) 18:24, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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Sources overkill, for Canadian monarch as official resident.[edit]

Recommend cutting the sources down to 2 for the Canadian monarch being an official resident of Rideau Hall. IMHO, 5 is overkill. GoodDay (talk) 23:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Cut it down to a single note (WP:BUNDLING), which I think addresses your concern for readability and flow. Let me know what you think. trackratte (talk) 00:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Cool. GoodDay (talk) 00:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


Why are we showing his full name? GoodDay (talk) 17:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Seeing as the editor who prefers Johnston's middle name in the infobox, won't take part in the D of BRD & per BRD, he has the advantage of his preference staying put. There's nothing more that can be done here. GoodDay (talk) 05:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

There is, as of yet, no 'D' to take part in: you haven't once--here or in an edit summary--explained why you want to make the change. Once you do, then it can get discussed. -- MIESIANIACAL 05:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
The discussion is over. You prefer the 'middle name' in the infobox & so there it will remain. GoodDay (talk) 05:27, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
The discussion is over because you either had no reason or refuse to admit your reason for deleting the middle name. -- MIESIANIACAL 05:30, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
The Governor General of Canada's official website, uses David Johnston. GoodDay (talk) 05:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
It also uses David Lloyd Johnston. -- MIESIANIACAL 05:54, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
The head of the website uses David Johnston. Again though, I won't push for exclusion of "Lloyd", anymore. GoodDay (talk) 05:57, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

List of former Governors General[edit]

There's currently a dispute over whether the list-in-question should be in this article. I'll just note that a similiar list is at Governor-General of Australia, though I haven't checked the others. Personally, I've no concern as to whether the list is kept or not. Just opening this discussion, with the hope that it will avoid edit-warring. GoodDay (talk) 23:16, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

I was looking for the tlak we had before about this and realized it was about Prime Minister of Canada.....we decided that the list makes more sense at List of Prime Ministers of Canada because the article was about the office not the people...a bit different here since so much history is here...not sure on this any case source would be nice about the deaths. --Moxy (talk) 23:24, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, sources have been added. Alexander's Hood (talk) 01:53, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

The entire section is redundant. The point of Tweedsmuir and Massey being the only two governors general to die is office is covered already in the 'Appointment' section. Living former governors general are now indicated at List of Governors General of Canada (in line with living former lieutenant governors being shown in the lists of lieutenant governors and with living former prime ministers, apparently). The section can be deleted (and most certainly should be until there's a consensus favouring adding it). -- MIESIANIACAL 02:43, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

See Governor-General_of_Australia#Living_former_governors-general. Alexander's Hood (talk) 06:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
See WP:OTHERSTUFF. If the information is already covered elsewhere, there's no need to cover it again here. -- MIESIANIACAL 16:18, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
That's only becuase you *put* the material elsewhere (and only one element of the material at that). That wasn't the case when it was originally posted. Alexander's Hood (talk) 19:33, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
In any case, thus far no one has agreed with your position. Consensus doesn't mean unanimity (i.e. you don't have a veto). Alexander's Hood (talk) 19:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I did not put anything elsewhere except the indication of living former governors general at List of Governors General of Canada, which follows exactly what I said in my edit summary here about the info being better suited to another article.
There's no consensus favouring the addition of the section. The onus is on you to obtain it before the section can be re-added. There's no requirement for me or anyone else to get a consensus to undo your bold edit. Please review WP:BRD again. -- MIESIANIACAL 21:36, 27 January 2016 (UTC)