Talk:Grace Poe

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. I did it myself. –HTD 05:22, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

Grace Poe-LlamanzaresGrace Poe – Undoubtedly those TV ads swung the "Grace Poe" name into favor vs. "Grace Poe-Llamanzares". –HTD 05:19, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

COMELEC or Comelec ?[edit]

Any acronym composed of block capitals is always going to be visually intrusive on the page. However, COMELEC (all upper case) is overwhelmingly the form used in formal writing in the Philippines and even more so overseas. It's also currently given as the alternative name in the opening sentence of our own article:

Accordingly, I shall be making the appropriate changes.

Obviously if someone can find cogent reasons for using the rarer form eschewed by our own article on COMELEC, I'm entirely open to reversion... BushelCandle (talk) 21:44, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

I would agree with the use of all-caps for COMELEC as opposed to the mixed-case form, which if you ask me is less convention and more laziness on the part of whoever writes sources that use the mixed-case form rather than the more correct all-caps form. --Sky Harbor (talk) 07:19, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Comelec is not an "pure" acronym. It's more of a contraction of three words. Commission on Elections. The all caps doesn't make sense. Shhhhwwww!! (talk)
I agree - but since COMELEC's own web page consistently uses the ALL CAPS version, that agreement about the label/etymology of the ALL CAPS version doesn't change my stance. BushelCandle (talk) 21:12, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Grace Poe/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: BlackJack (talk · contribs) 06:27, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Starting review[edit]

I'm happy to commence this review. Please contact me if there is anything else about the article I should be aware of. Thanks very much. Jack | talk page 06:27, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Jack, thanks for taking this on. Poe was a candidate in the just-completed Philippine Presidential election, yet the article says almost nothing about the actual campaign itself, especially the period after Poe had been confirmed as an eligible candidate by their Supreme Court. I don't see how, without a major infusion of new material on the election and its results (Poe came in third, not far behind Roxas, the second-place finisher, but well behind Duterte, who got far more votes), the article meets the broadness criteria. (There's also too much time spent on the eligibility fight, especially when you consider how little is spent on the campaign, including the period when she was ahead in the polls, and what happened to that lead.) A lot of work will be needed to make the article more balanced so it meets the GA criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:29, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello, BlueMoonset. Thanks very much for the heads-up. I'll certainly take all of that into account. I haven't actually started reading it just yet. Do let me know if anything else comes up. Jack | talk page 20:27, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Immediate failure[edit]

Having taken into account the points raised by BlueMoonset above and, following my own initial reading of the article, I have decided on immediate failure of the GAN because "it is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria", namely "broad in its coverage". This criterion requires that "it addresses the main aspects of the topic", but the article is out of date as it does not cover the recent presidential election, surely the most important development in the subject's career to date. Much more work is required before it can again aspire to GA. Jack | talk page 20:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Birth name[edit]

According to her original birth certificate, she was born Mary Grace Natividad Contreras Militar. But when she was adopted, her name was changed to Mary Grace Natividad Sonora Poe. (talk) 06:27, 29 June 2016 (UTC)