Talk:Grade I listed buildings in Carmarthenshire

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject Wales (Rated List-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Wales, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on Wales on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
 List  This article has been rated as List-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Historic sites (Rated List-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Historic sites, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of historic sites on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
 List  This article has been rated as List-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 

St Peter's Church, Carmarthen[edit]

I was about to start writing a standalone article about St Peter's Church, Carmarthen, but the listing is quite confusing. In fact the official COFLEIN website says the church is Grade II, as does a recent local newspaper article. Britishlistedbuildings describes it as Grade I, but Britishlistedbuildings is not an official listings website. The church's own website gives no clue. While the description of the church suggests it should be a higher listing than Grade II, it would be good to have compelling proof. Any ideas? Sionk (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

The church also has its detailled history hosted on Net Ministries which concurs that it is Grade II listed. Therefore I'm removing the entry from this list article. Sionk (talk) 15:47, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Doesn't the information for both British Listed Buildings and the lists on Wikipedia come directly from Cadw? I've contacted them via their online form. Ham II (talk) 16:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Presumably BLB make mistakes. I understood RCAHMW/Coflein to be the official Welsh Government disseminator of information on the subject. It will be interesting to see what Cadw's response is. Sionk (talk) 17:10, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Here's the reply: "Thank you for your email. I can confirm that the Parish Church of St Peter, Church Lane, Carmarthen is listed grade I. I have attached a copy of the list description for your information." The description is the same as that on British Listed Buildings. I'll go and make the necessary changes to this article and St Peter's Church, Carmarthen. (And thanks for creating that article, Sionk.) Ham II (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Someone (i.e. Coflein) need to correct their online infomation, in that case. We're relying on a secondary website to 'prove' a listing, rather than the official listing body, the newspapers and the church itself, who all say Grade II. Surely we can't write Wikipedia articles based on private email correspondence? Sionk (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
I've now contacted the RCAHMW, who also have an online form. Ham II (talk) 08:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)