Talk:Grand Hotel (film)

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Garbo Quote[edit]

Has anybody seen this film to confirm her quote? Because on her page there's a quote of hers saying that it was I want to be LEFT alone.

its definitely "I want to be alone." if you have the dvd, it's at approx 34 mins and approx 40mins into the picture
82.35.30.160 (talk) 10:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Why does this keep getting changed back, then? I don't want there to be edit wars over this, but the line "I want to be alone" is very clear in the film. In what interview did she insist she'd said "I want to be left alone"? This ought to be cleared up. --Bluejay Young (talk) 13:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
   W/ all due respect to the Newspaper of Record, what she said that she had said is not definitive, and the NYT may well have given her the benefit of nil nisi bonum in an obit (and other potential sources might take it at face value). Other sources are needed.
--Jerzyt 06:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
   And while we're on the subject, a cartoon parodied her saying "I vant to be alone", and when i didn't get the joke i was told that that's what an actress had said in a movie. Yesterday, i asked my film informant, "What do you know about Grand Hotel?" and the answer was "You mean the movie? That's where Garbo said 'I vant to be alone.' " (And we already have "I vant to be alone" mentioned in Hotel Adlon, Jackie Burroughs, & Margaret Dragu. And Google has "About 81,100" hits for that version.) Reliable sources needed, but we have every reason to hope to find them.
--Jerzyt 06:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
   I am currently watching the movie, and have just finished the scene in question. Before she goes into her room (while Barrymore is in there stealing her pearls), she clearly says, "I just want to be alone" to her manager and her caretaker. After she enters the room and encounters Barrymore, she says, "I want to be alone" to him near the end of their conversation. I did not hear say, "I want to be left/let alone".-- NavyVet6989 (talk) 09:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
   That is a really great & conscientious job of tracking down info. I often cite NOR, thinking to myself that the info is pretty much worthless bcz of our policy (but leaving it to colleagues to draw the same conclusion for themselves rather than "rubbing it in"). Movies make a tough case, since the effort that for instance NV has made is so much more than what suffices when a quote and URL can be cited on the talk page, and any user with the least interest can verify in 30 sec. that the quote accurately reflects the cited URL: then the truly careful checker has a relatively straightforward further task of verifying that the author of the URLed info is an accepted authority in the field, and that the URLed site is one that the author endorses as accurate with respect to quoting their work! So in this case, i say again that NV has done a really great & conscientious job of tracking down info, and add that it's real progress in this discussion: this is the kind of OR that (while it can't in itself fulfill our goal of V), lets us know much better what we are looking for than before.
   Here are some problems that remain, hopefully suggesting paths to proceed along: ISBNs seem to be an adequate way of identifying the edition (but probably not the printing) of a print work; have they been extended to videotapes and videodisks with the same degree of assurance that the same info appears on two items that bear the same ISBN (or ISVN, i suppose), so that we have a clear way of distinguishing re-edits of a single title? I think everyone has seen at least one film, even on cable, where a great profane line has been bowdlerized out; are there re-edits of Grand Hotel that have been subjected to sound-editing to suit either Ms. Garbo's claim, or the expectations of me and my film informant?? (Such "editions" could be good business, even if impediments to scholarship.) What would constitute OR by us is V by a scholar, and hopefully the authority (of at least one generation of film scholars) has done that OR -- listening to all the re-edited versions and preparing a marked-up transcript that constitutes a master transcript embracing all re-edits -- and then exposed their results to professional, maybe even academic, criticism; the true V that we must strive toward would rely on that work. It's in the context of that long-term process that i thank NV for a contribution, far more valuable than mine above, to the background work that a featured article should reflect.
--Jerzyt 16:15, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


(Location)[edit]

Not that it's important, but some mention might be made of where this film was shot. Rklawton (talk) 00:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It was shot at the MGM studios. LiteraryMaven (talkcontrib) 19:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Exposure[edit]

I removed the unreferenced "Coincidentally, each in a single frame exposes a nipple, escaping the notice of movie censors." Not only would this be a very unlikely coincidence, but I've just watched the DVD and neither comes even close to exposing anything. In any case, the comment is quite irrelevant to an article about the movie.--Shantavira|feed me 09:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Today's edit[edit]

The purported Channel 4 claim went to a dead link that isn't archived, and in any case, calling Grand Hotel a portmanteau film is WP:FRINGE: It isn't made up of discrete stories but takes place at same place and time — having many subplots doesn't make it portmanteau, or else every episode of The Love Boat would be considered portmanteau. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)