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Origin of "Grand Slam"[edit]

Hi. I was thinking that this page is lacking an essential piece of information: what it the origin of the term "Grand Slam"? I haven't been able to find that out, but most likely it was first used by some reporter in the early 20th century in reference to one particular sport (Tennis? Golf?) and was latter copied for all those other events that now make up all of those "Grand Slams" (because that's how the media sells papers and gets their ratings in: by inventing those lists of events in order to engage the audiences of the world). Still, it would be interesting to have that sort of information. Can anyone fill that gap? Regards, Redux 01:00, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've found it at Roland Garros's webpage [1]:
[quote] Roland-Garros , the Australian Open, Wimbledon and the US Open make up the four events collectively known as the "Grand Slam". The concept can be dated back to 1933, when Australian Jack Crawford was on the verge of winning all four majors. Crawford had already won in Australia, France and England, and had battled through to the final of the US Championships in New York. John Kieran, sports writer at the New York Times, was a keen card player and in his column made an analogy with the Grand Slam in bridge: "If Crawford beats Perry today it would be something like a Grand Slam on the courts, doubled and vulnerable". Crawford would eventually lose at the very last hurdle, but Kieran's words had stuck. Since 2000, the ATP and the ITF jointly organise the Tennis Masters Cup for the season’s eight top players in the ATP Champions Race.
Very few players have pulled off the Grand Slam (winning all 4 events in the same calendar year) since its inception 70 years ago. Donald Budge (1938) and Rod Laver (1962 and 1969) are the only men to have achieved it, Margaret Court (1970), Maureen Connolly (1953) and Steffi Graf (1988) the only women. As if it wasn't hard enough, the task of winning the Grand Slam got a whole lot harder a few years ago when the four tournaments began to be played on four different surfaces: Rebound Ace in Australia, clay at Roland-Garros, grass at Wimbledon and Decoturf at the US Open.
Andre Agassi is the last player to have won a career Grand Slam, his successes at Wimbledon and Roland-Garros separated by seven long years. With every passing year, the big four Grand Slam events gain in prestige.
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--61.134.11.209 21:02, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Keep going backward[edit]

Grand Slam is older than that as a term. It was the name of a horse in a races in NY starting at least in 1904.
See the NY Times at [2]
That's almost certainly a "reference" to something, and there are a lot of entries on Google News archive search for that Era. There are many even going back to the 1880s, but looking at those they appear to be "retrospective." (Stories from later about things that happened then.) See http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22grand+slam%22&sugg=d&sa=N&lnav=m&scoring=t
Every mention on the NYT archives before 1910 has something to do with horse racing, it appears. See: http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?query=%22grand+slam%22&d=&o=&v=&c=&n=10&dp=0&daterange=period&srcht=a&year1=1851&mon1=09&day1=18&year2=1980&mon2=12&day2=31&srchst=p&sort=oldest
After 1910 you start getting mentions of the term in Bridge.
--Stancollins (talk) 20:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Origin of the term "Grand Slam" (2013/2014)[edit]

"Grand Slam (tennis)" includes such a section

Here are direct links to the online sources that were or are cited there.

--P64 (talk) 20:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Remove all except the link that includes "Grand Slam"?[edit]

As said at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages):

'Each bulleted entry should, in almost every case, have exactly one navigable (blue) link. Including more than one link can confuse the reader; including no links at all makes the entry useless for further navigation. (See "redlinks" below for cases where no article yet exists.)

If nobody objects within a week I'll be removing them. --Howard the Duck 10:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Removed Non-article entries[edit]

Please add these back when articles are present or anticipated:

Non-article entries
  • Grand Slam in beauty pageant is a country winning all the four major international pageants namely: Miss World, Miss Universe, Miss International, and Miss Earth.
  • A grand slam in Whist is winning all the tricks
  • A grand slam in Contract Bridge, is bidding for and winning all the tricks
  • In cyclo-cross, winning the World and National Championships, the Superprestige, the GvA Trophy, and holding the No. 1 spot on the UCI rakings in one year
  • In NASCAR, the Daytona 500, Aaron's 499, Coca-Cola 600, and Southern 500 (1985-2004).
  • In American motorcycle racing, a rider who wins one race in each of the following categories during their career: half mile dirt track, mile dirt track, short track, TT, and road race
  • In snooker, holding the Grand Prix, British Open, UK Championship, Irish Masters, Welsh Open, European Open, Players Championship and Embassy World Championship titles at the same time
  • In ski jumping, winning the Four Hills Tournament
  • In the Academy Awards, a film is said to win the "Grand Slam" if it is awarded Oscars in the following five categories (the "Big Five"): Best Picture, Directing, Actor, Actress, and Writing.
  • Grand Slam is the term for a Wendy's burger with four meat patties.
  • Grand Slam, a large breakfast meal sold at Denny's restaurants
  • Operation Grand Slam: A plan by Auric Goldfinger to "heist" Fort Knox in Goldfinger

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwguffey (talkcontribs) 22:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Removed five years later:
  • [[List of Formula One driver records#Pole, led entire race & scored fastest lap|Grand Slam]], leading every lap of a Formula One Grand Prix after starting from pole position, while also setting the fastest lap"
The target article section carries a laborious heading and the term "Grand Slam" does not appear anywhere, nor does its French Grand Chelem. --removed from this dablist with notice and explanation at Talk:List of Formula One driver records#Grand Chelem?.
Meanwhile "grand slam" in contract bridge (which links to an article section) is in the lead prose, rather than being a dab list entry, for it is etymologically notable re the whole lot but not big enough to be the subject of an article.
At the moment, the origin in contract bridge scoring is mentioned in the lead of Grand slam (baseball), mentioned without source in Grand slam (golf), and featured in a section of Grand Slam (tennis).
--P64 (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Redirect entries[edit]

Redirect entries

--P64 (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Grand Slam in Beauty Pageant[edit]

To Mr. Angelo Dela Paz:

Please discontinue of superfluously asserting Miss Tourism Queen International (MTQI) as a major pageant in Wikipedia due to lack of notability and acceptability from majority of internationally related pageant websites. The article should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. It is a translucent fact that MTQI is not even recognize by most international pageant websites as a Grand Slam pageant with the exception of its promoters like Global Beauties, whose airfare and accommodation to cover the pageant is being paid by MTQI organizers, and its staunch ally, Pageantopolis. If you look into details of other international pageant websites you will find out the truth:

1. Critical Beauty [5] [6]

2. Missosology[7][8]

3. Grand Slam Pageants[9][10]

4. Grand Slam Beauties[11]

5. Her Factor[12]

6. Globmiss has an update news about MTQI 2008, however, it did not include MTQI to the big pageants such as MI, MU, ME, and MW [13]

7. Pageant Almanac[14] [15]

8. Jimmy's Pageant Page[16]

Likewise, if you visit other websites like OPMB, All That Beauty, and etc; nevertheless, there are only four accepted major international or Grand Slam Pageants namely Miss Universe, Miss World, Miss Earth, and Miss International; even Pageantopolis and Global Beauties would agree that all the four mentioned international contests are major pageants. There is no doubt to the fact that MTQI is an international pageant but it's acceptability as a MAJOR international pageant remained to be in question, especially that the MTQI organizers pay Global Beauties for the airfare to cover the pageant, therefore its credibility is tainted. If you can show RELIABLE sources other than Pageantopolis and Global Beauties to support your claim, then your contention with MTQI as a major pageant will be accepted. Since the inclusion of MTQI as major pageant or as a “Grand Slam” is still highly controversial, and oppositions from other international pageant websites are well-documented, therefore its inclusion to Wikipedia is still pending. I know time will come, but just don't be in a hurry.

--Jet Perry (talk) 04:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)