Talk:Grand Theft Auto (video game)/Archive 1

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Hey what ever happened to the Grand Theft Auto 4 page? It has been announced that it will be made, we know that much. What's wrong with a little anticipation and speculation? C'mon let's put it back up.

San Andreas

I don't think San Andreas was considered a state in this game (unlike the new game that is now out). If I remember right, it had landmarks and regions that implied it was exclusively in the San Francisco area: a Chinatown, "Soviet Hill" (a take on Russian Hill) and the area (and descriptions) had a lot of references to hippies. But, it's been a while since I've played the original, does anyone else remember any of this? RADICALBENDER 02:38, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I don't remember hippies being mentioned in San Andreas, but it's been a while since I played the game. I do have the game to hand, and it comes with maps of each area. San Andreas has the following locations:
  • Richman
  • Telephone Hill
  • Wood Hill
  • Soviet Hill
  • Sunrise
  • Atlantic Heights
  • Eagleside
  • Excalibur
  • Glen Wood
  • Woodside
  • Potato
  • Chinatown
  • Market
  • Marina
  • Sailors Wharf
  • Sunview

I don't know whether they correspond to places in San Francisco, but I don't know the Geography of the area.Silverfish 11:43, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, more of those correspond with real locations in San Francisco:
The other one's might, too - I just don't know what they all are. As far as the hippies, I do remember that one of the vehicles available for driving was a very slow, very poorly-manueverable van with a flower on the roof - a reference to the Vanagon which is stereotypically considered to be a "hippie" vehicle. There were some other references, too - I can't recall them right now. RADICALBENDER 15:04, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)


I'm pretty sure Rockstar didn't publish this.--Dustin Asby 09:25, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

DMA, the develepor of Lemmings, developed it, they are today known as Rockstar Games. /Grillo 09:19, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
To be exact, DMA are now Rockstar North (the British arm of the company), as opposed to the original American Rockstar. This may explain the very British "6031769" cheat code (taken from Manic Miner) in the PC version of GTA. (talk)


I changed gbc to gba in the platforms section. Janne92

Computer and video game

What is a computer and video game? I thought GTA is a video game... (talk) 14:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe that a video game is defined as a game you play on a console you plug into your TV. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Scottish Landmarks

There used to be a section that listed areas in Grand Theft Auto that where spoofs and parodies on areas and landmarks in Dundee (where the first game was origonally created) and surrounding areas but now it's gone. Could someone let me know why, please? An example would be a bridge in San Andreas resembling the Forth bridge which connects the city of Edinburgh to Fife or the Loonies in GTA2 coming from Sunnyside which is also the name of a mental hospital just outside Dundee or Verdant Bluffs in San Andreas being named after Verdant Works, an old historical mill in Dundee. There are many more aswell. Drakul 08:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

GTA released in 1997 or 1998?

Refering to recent changes on Grand Theft Auto (game) and Grand Theft Auto by; could someone verify the actual release date?

So far, several game review sites, including GameSpot and IGN, mention the PC version of the game being released in 1998, but other sites, including Rockstar Classic and MobyGames, mention the PC version being released in 1997. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 16:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC) ╫

The game has been released in 1997 originally by another publisher "ASC" which instantly disappeared, and was later distributed by BMG / Take2, some online reviews show the game's original splash screen from the original publisher, but these are extremely rare, i saw one in link mentioned in this forum topic, but since then the original image disappeared:;action=display;num=1100717607;start=1 The most common release from take2 / BMG has a copyright(c)1997 written on the back of the manual. Jernejl 13:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC) SEE: Jernejl 13:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The game was released in 1997 from PC by BMG Interactive in Europe. Later -exactly in March 1998- was released in North America by ASC/Take 2 and in May 98 was released its PS version by T2 only. The game was originally developed by DMA and published by BMG, old Houser brother's company before they formed Rockstar after BMG was adquired by T2.

Sources: GameSpot - SEC Info —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

The Music

No mention of the games soundtrack is made and I thought that's odd because a big deal is made over the other Grand Theft Auto music.

Like the apparent theme song "Joyride" by "Da Shootaz" which can be heard in a car. I'm not really sure if any of those titles are correct, I just happened to find the lyrics through Google.


Hometown, downtown, speeding all around
An AK47 got the power in its barrel to
Move any mother that gets in my way
Just another power machine out on the freeway

Riding with me is my MC homeboy
Knowing the rules ain't part of his program
Finding the right way around this map
Might be pretty hard cause he's f***ed on crack

G - Grand Theft Auto
You gotta make a mark and move where you want to

T - Theft
To steal what you can and run from the nation

A - Hey what d'ya say
We automate the sequence and speed for my getaway
Take it to the edge, there's nowhere to hide
And call up the boys, let's go for a joyride
Let's go for a joyride

"Stop the violence from the police" you know my Dad used to say but now he's deceased
He got caught in a jam, threw in the can
When the cops from Brooklyn said he killed another man

Seek knowledge was my main game
To think about the law, to figure out the frame
Just when I thought I knew justice, a cop behind me said
"You just been busted"




Don't f*** with me!

However, a mention of the song and artist is made on List of songs about computer and video games article.

I think I'm going to add a section for the games soundtrack after I do some more research, and maybe do something for the "Da Shootaz" article, so if anyone has any more info on the games soundtrack add it please --Joe dude 20:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I found the game's soundtrack and added it to the page (just letting you all know) Punkrock182 13:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Can it really by 50 Cent on the soundtrack? Kinda hard to believe, isn't it? --Soetermans 11:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

If anybody still wants a thorough listing, I've finally found my copy of the Collector's Edition Soundtrack CD. It lists the tracks, the artists, the albums the songs are from, and the radio stations (all of them being fictional)!
Also, what counts as the 'Main Theme' mentioned in the article? That one is Slumpussy - Gangster Friday, but it's an instrumental generally played on the menu screens. I always thought the one in this talk page with its lyrics listed was the theme! ('Grand Theft Auto' by Da Shootaz; It's on track 3, which is N-ct FM) JaffaCakeLover (talk) 17:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion this article is wrong concerning the mentioning of fictional radio stations. Sure "Head Radio FM" is mentioned, but I think that "Funk FM" is mentioned too. I hear a male voice saying "Funk FM" between some of the songs. It's my favorite radio station in the game. --RandomVisitor85 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Brooklyn Underground FM (Trance)

it's not really trance is it? it's more electronic hardcore and even drumnbass.


The edit by was done by me - was too fast to fix the Vandalism under the Points, that I forgot to login. KDLarsen 04:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


There was always a rumour there was a helicopter in the game, was it just that, a rumour? Dann 12:35 4 April 2006 (BST)

There are in fact helicopter and boat sprites in the game, and while I have seen the boat in one Liberty City mission as a non-drivable vehicle, I'm not really sure about the helicopter (although it's possible that it's also not drivable). ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 16:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC) ╫

The Helicopter IS in the game, but not used, it does exist, and is used by several gta1 modifications. Jernejl 13:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The Boat is only used in LC and SA, I believe. The boat is "drivable" if it's added as a parked car using either "Junction 25" or "M1" (GTA Eds). It's pretty fast too. The helicopter is not drivable but I believe there is a script somewhere that used the sprite to "drop" narcotics somewhere for the player to pick up. There's also a cable car sprite in both the SA and VC graphics sets. Neither were used (likely due to technical reasons). ZellDenver (talk) 01:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Is this correct?

"Also certain crimes have a set wanted level e.g shooting a policemen will always earn you 2 stars whereas beating one to death is merely a one star offence."

I'm pretty sure it wasn't possible to beat a police officer to death in the first 2 Grand Theft Auto, though you could still punch them, it would floor them but they'd get up and chase you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xzamuel (talkcontribs) 21:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC). You can punch the police officer in gta2, but you cannot punch the police officer to death. In the original gta1 you can't punch a police officer. Jernejl 13:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


Is this game created by an American company? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 19:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

Rockstars Headquarters or whatever in like London or something. Rockstar North is in NYC.

Quit swearing!

GTA developers Rockstar North are a Scottish company based in Edinburgh. BillPP (Talk) 16:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Trivium not showing?

Last night I added a trivium (a cheat code which was a tribute to an earlier game) which today isn't showing on the page, though it shows if "Edit" for the "Trivia" section is clicked. I wonder why not?

(I've clicked the link to the user page for the (public) IP address from which I posted, and it seems that it was previously used (last month) by someone who vandalised Wikipedia; could this be something to do with it?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 15:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

Are you talking about the Manic Miner part? If so then that's showing up to me. Also could you provide a reference or explain how it is a tribute to the game as it's not clear. Thanks --BillPP (Talk) 16:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Strange, it definitely doesn't show for me (terminal at the easyInternetcafé, Trafalgar Square, London UK). It's a Manic Miner tribute because the cheat code in question was originally for Manic Miner; it's said to be the MM programmer's (Matthew Smith's) telephone number at the time...
Well if it does show up for you at some point, can you add a source that verifies that it is the phone number. I looked on the Manic Miner page and it doesn't have a source either. Cheers --BillPP (Talk) 17:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

There are references to hippies in the san andreas map: there is a flower-peace-decorated VW camper in the game, which is named "love wagon". Jernejl 13:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The above comment should have been put in a new section, as it has nothing to do with the Manic-Miner-related trivium of this section. 15:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)