Talk:Great Famine of 1876–78

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I would contest the objectivity of the information of this article - it sounds to me like the author read the Marxist/nationalist literature on the topic but has ignored more recent economic analysis and revision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Really? What do you think Roy 2006 is? Marxist-nationalist? And, the Imperial Gazetteer of India? Marxist-nationalist? The article is still a stub. I'm staying away from much analysis at this point. OK? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I think this article is brilliant. Well done Fowler.-Led125 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I just saw this. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Indian famine of 1899-1900[edit]

I noticed that you haven't done an article on the 1899-1900 famine. May I ask why this is so, or are you in the process of writing one?_Led125 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am in the process of writing one, and on some earlier famines too (the Agra famine of 1838, and the Upper Doab famine of 1860-61). I got side tracked by a controversy on the Talk India page. Also, I had to create articles for Ceded and Conquered Provinces and North-Western Provinces and clarify the pre-existing article on Doab in order to adequately explain the Agra and Upper Doab famines. Thanks for asking. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Led125, I have now created (actually still under construction) a page for the Indian famine of 1899–1900. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

mortalilty estimates[edit]

I have added mortality estimates sourced from Mike Davis' book in tabular form. Reading through edit histories, I found out Prof. Fowler's doesnt approve of adding anything from Davis work as Davis is not a scholar of famines. So i have not added any research/conclusions from Davis, only the estimates he is quoting from secondary sources (works of Digby, Seavoy and Maharatna). The estimate of around 5.5 million itself is from the 1907 gazetteer and David Fieldhouse's essay from cambridge illustrated history. The same 5.5 million estimate is also present in Cambridge economic history. (The Cambridge Economic History calls the numbers as "essentially guesstimates"). Since the estimates vary by wide margins, i think it would be better to add the various estimates. --Sodabottle (talk) 10:47, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

PD photo available[edit] MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:23, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Possible ENSO connection?[edit]

Beginning around September 1876 and lasting until around September 1878, an exceptionally strong El Niño event, perhaps similar to both the current event and the 1997-98 event, was underway ― according to IRI Kaplan reconstructions (animation here), perhaps halfway between 1997-98 and 2015-16 as far as Niño 3.4 (but with warmer 1+2 than 2015-16) anomalies are concerned.

El Niño events are well-known in India for causing monsoon failures, especially in the southwestern part of the country, by displacing the Maritime Continent warm pool eastward and inducing sinking air from Indonesia westward. I wonder if the effect of this event on India was similar to 1887-89, 1899-1900 in this regard. 2602:306:BCA6:8300:51F5:29B9:FC61:963 (talk) 17:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

That may well be the case. Very likely, in fact. However, on Wikipedia, we can only mention something if there is a reliable secondary source stating it. Some famines such as Doji bara famine and Agra famine of 1837–38 have such sources. If you know of other sources, which clearly mention the 1877-78 El Nino event in the context of the 1876-78 famine (or vice-versa), or any other famine in British India in the context of an El Niño event, please post here, or if you feel confident, make an edit on the famine's WP page. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)