Talk:Tincture of cannabis
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Should not be characterized as "an alcoholic beverage"
Ideally, Green Dragon should be a strong tincture in which the amount needed to obtain the effects of cannabis should be small enough that the alcoholic effect is negligible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pithecanthropus (talk • contribs) 02:27, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Making Green Dragon
In my personal experience, making the green dragon via the "Let the herb sit in a jar of alcohol" method is an absolute waste. Even after several days, the weed that you left in the jar can still be smoked for a decent buzz, meaning that the canabanoids have not quite been extracted yet. My personal reccomendation is as follows:
- Use an erlenmeyer flask sitting in a pot of hot water (not boiling yet).
- Take a rubber stopper and dril a small hole through it, top to bottom
- Take a reed from a bagpipes' chanter or an obo and insert it into the stopper
- Plug the flask with the stopper and place the flask into the hot water
- If you hear the reed buzzing, then you know there is vapour escaping the flask (too much heat)
Ferment like this for up to 2 hours, or as long as you can keep it up without blowing up your kitchen. This drink can be fatal, so keep it to 6oz or less.
Based on my rudimentary knowledge of organic chemistry, it should NOT take more than a day or two to get the active ingredient of marijuana (THC) diffused into the alcohol. Since ethyl alcohol has a slightly polar and a non-polar segment, it is a very good solvent. This allows it to dissolve both polar and non-polar solutes. THC is relatively non-polar (except for the alcohol (OH) group coming off of one of its rings) so it dissolves into alcohol well (but not water). This is also why THC can dissolve into fat (like butter). If the marijuana is ground up fine enough, it should only be a matter of hours and the application of some heat to get the THC to diffuse completely. Waiting until the mixture turns green simply means that the cells of the plant matter have fully ruptured and the chlorophyll (which is a much larger molecule) has leaked out. Trying to judge the effectiveness of a method by how well the stuff "smokes" after is not the greatest idea. There is no way to fully diffuse ALL of the THC out (as that is the nature of diffusion). The best way would be to keep the diffusion gradient very high by running clean alcohol through the plant matter continually, then evaporating out the excess alcohol to make the solution concentrated. OngoingCivilUnrest 20:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.cannabishq.com/forum/index.php?topic=614.0 could be added to external links or references
- That's a forum topic?
Opposition to proposed deletion
The point of an encyclopedia is distribution of information. Today, someone asked me if i'd ever tried "green dragon". I had no idea what they were talking about. I searched the web and found this page. Now I know what it is. Purpose served. Six days from now, i'd still be looking.
Buds not Leaves
THC is in the Buds of marijuana, not the leaves or stems.
- trace amounts of THC are found in leaves and stems, but it is more concentrated in the buds. For smoking purposes, only buds are useful but the THC in stems IS viable for green dragon. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 08:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Merge -> Cannabis foods
I know it's called Cannabis foods, but... I think we should add a sort of 'drink' section. All these things don't flow so well as separate articles. JavaDog 14:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Further to the above, it should be noted that there is a section of 'Cannabis foods' entitled 'Liqueurs'. Maybe the content on this page should be moved there and a redirect created. In due course, if the Liqueurs section becomes lengthy enough, this article could be re-created and the Cannabis foods one could have a 'main article' link to it? --22.214.171.124 (talk) 19:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)