Talk:Green tea

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What I deleted[edit]

I'm all for Green Tea, and I hope that it is correlated with a lower risk of death from any cause, because I drink it all day long. That being said, that makes very little sense. By not even specifying what it that literally says is that death from any cause be it cancer, heart disease, gun shot wound, car accident, gas pipeline explosion, all of these are less likely to happen to me because I drink tea. So if that came from the New England Journal of Medicine, Johns Hopkins, Tsinghua, Seoul University, Oxford from a longitudinal Study, I probably still wouldn't believe it but fair enough, but the source isn't reliable for such a claim, especially not when the rest of the article is loaded with reputable sources saying that no such claim can be made. Second I deleted a sentence about black tea decreasing the likelihood of all cancers, like I said in the comment, this article is about green tea, not black, what's more is that the same source was used, and for the strength of the claim, and the amount of other sources it goes against, it doesn't cut it. So I took those two out. If someone wants to include that, and can find rock solid sources to support the claim, I'm all for it, and like I said I hope it's true, but until that point, it's not up to wiki standards. Alcibiades979 (talk) 21:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Also a slew of sources mainly, though not exclusively from China, refuting the hitherto made assertions on green tea, and black from journals such as "Oral Oncology," "Nutrition and Cancer," and "World Journal of Surgical Oncology". [1][2][3][4][5]

References

  1. ^ Wang W, Yang Y, Zhang W, Wu W (April 2014). "Association of tea consumption and the risk of oral cancer: a meta-analysis". Oral Oncol (Meta-Analysis). 50 (4): 276–81. doi:10.1016/j.oraloncology.2013.12.014. PMID 24389399.
  2. ^ Wang Y, Yu X, Wu Y, Zhang D (November 2012). "Coffee and tea consumption and risk of lung cancer: a dose-response analysis of observational studies". Lung Cancer (Meta-Analysis). 78 (2): 169–70. doi:10.1016/j.lungcan.2012.08.009. PMID 22964413.
  3. ^ Zheng J, Yang B, Huang T, Yu Y, Yang J, Li D (June 2011). "Green tea and black tea consumption and prostate cancer risk: an exploratory meta-analysis of observational studies". Nutr Cancer (Meta-Analysis). 63 (5): 663–72. doi:10.1080/01635581.2011.570895. PMID 21667398.
  4. ^ Lin YW, Hu ZH, Wang X, Mao QQ, Qin J, Zheng XY, Xie LP (February 2014). "Tea consumption and prostate cancer: an updated meta-analysis". World J Surg Oncol (Meta-Analysis). 12: 38. doi:10.1186/1477-7819-12-38. PMC 3925323. PMID 24528523.
  5. ^ Zheng JS, Yang J, Fu YQ, Huang T, Huang YJ, Li D (January 2013). "Effects of green tea, black tea, and coffee consumption on the risk of esophageal cancer: a systematic review and meta-analysis of observational studies". Nutr Cancer (Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis). 65 (1): 1–16. doi:10.1080/01635581.2013.741762. PMID 23368908.
This section has been previously discussed[1] at WT:MED. On balance, I think the deletions are good. Alexbrn (talk) 06:40, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
I mean on the face of it the claim is just so absurd. Death from any cause? That includes lightning strike, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but that's ridiculous. Making the claim that green tea decreases chances of dying from all things including lightning, is insane. What's more from a logical stand point the sentence is fallacious. Not to be morbid however, everyone's chances of dying from some cause, non specific, are 100%. Tea or no, I'll die from something, as have countless other tea drinkers. Alcibiades979 (talk) 15:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
It was indeed WP:CB. Alexbrn (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2019 (UTC)