Talk:Grenoble

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I think it would be very nice to have a short explanation of the concept of "twin town", excerpted from the twin town entry. What do you think?


Champollion wasn't born in Grenoble but in Figeac near Toulouse. But it's true he lived there during his childhood. (http://www.20six.fr/kubrick)

Transportation[edit]

IMHO the "how to get there" info belongs in WikiTravel. Meanwhile the actual information on Grenoble transport (3 tramlines now, I believe) is limited to a vague phrase about there being public transport run by semitag. hmm. hint: 'tag' stands for 'transport de l'agglomeration grenobloise'.

- As a note, Saturday 06-10-2007 (dd-mm-yyyy) a new Tramway line (D) was inaugurated which brings the total number of trams to 4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefan.constantin (talkcontribs) 11:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Births[edit]

I remove Andre The Giant of the list, because Andre was born in Coulommiers and not at Grenoble. My Grand Mother never came at Grenoble. Boris Roussimoff, Andre's nephew.

Bastille location[edit]

Is the mountain that the Bastille is situated on part of Chartreuse, or a different mountain? Thanks. 68.40.65.164 00:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Part of Chartreuse, I think. --Kubrick 908 13:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Bastille is indeed part of the Chartreuse Chartreuse. Grenoble is surrounded by 3 mountains (Vercors, Belledonne and Chartreuse)

Big Fab (talk) 09:07, 8 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

They are not simply mountains, but mountain chains —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.77.24.38 (talk) 17:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bars and Restaurants[edit]

"Grenoble has many restaurants from cheap to expensive of almost every cuisine, but particularly common are Italian and Asian establishments." Could someone improve that part? It seems a bit too general, as lots of french cities do have many italian and asian restaurants as well.

Economic Information[edit]

It would be nice to have some economic information about Grenoble. For example, median wage, median household/family income, top employers, average home price, cost of a gallon of milk/loaf of bread/liter of petrol, and how that compares to the rest of France and/or Europe.Badlandz (talk) 03:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Translation errors[edit]

Could someone please translate "IIIème century after J. -C. on our days" somewhat better? Thanks. :) Mikon (talk) 20:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I believe what they're trying to say is "3rd century A.D.". I'll go ahead and change it. JJ Valdez (talk) 00:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Climate[edit]

What is the climate like? Can someone add this information to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SquareWave (talkcontribs) 07:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Timeline of Grenoble[edit]

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content! Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 14:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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New history article[edit]

Should the history section be moved to a new article? There is a notice in the section from 2015. I want to add more to the section but it may be too long for this article. What is the best way to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perrymay (talkcontribs) 15:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Languages: French, Arpitan, and Occitan[edit]

I find it disturbing that one finds in the entire article, and in other similar articles (about the Isère department, etc.), not a single mention of the languages spoken in the city and in the region, both historically and in modern times. Arpitan and Occitan are mentioned only to cite the names of the city in those languages, in parentheses at the beginning of the article, and at the top of the information box in the top right corner of the article page. The word "language" or "languages" does not even appear in the entire long article! Something seems very wrong about this. If Arpitan and Occitan have enough historical importance that it is necessary and relevant to cite the names of the city itself in those languages prominently at the beginning of the article, surely these languages also have sufficient historical importance that it should be necessary to mention, describe, and discuss them in a section in the body of the article itself!

Curiously, the French language is not even mentioned in the article either. I will be blunt: I suspect that the reason for the silence of this article on the topic of languages, whether Arpitan, Occitan, or French, is the fear of offending the French government and its official language policy, which ever since the French Revolution has strenuously aimed to marginalize and if possible eliminate all minority languages within the territory of the French state, mandating official Parisian French as the one and only language of all of France. Apparently the authors and editors of articles such as this one are afraid to violate these wishes of the French government, and so even a topic that is clearly quite prominent and relevant in the history and culture of this city and this region--its historical languages--cannot even be mentioned in a section in the body of the article. To me, that seems like a very great shame, and not in keeping with the principles that Wikipedia is supposed to stand for. Skummafremdygest (talk) 22:51, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]