Talk:Greville Wynne

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Spies get pretty complicated pretty fast... Penkovskiy is widely believed to have been a plant. Lonsdale is aka Rudolph Abel aka Konan Trofimovich Molodiy (all believed to be pseudonyms), who ran Harry Houghton (cyptonym Shah) at the Admiralty Underwater Weapons Establishment, before Houghton got busted in 1960. This exposed Molodiy, which exposed Helen & Peter Kroger, pseudonyms of atomic spies Lona & Morris Cohen, sought by FBI since the '50s... They were known via VENONA (aka BRIDE), which also revealled the Rosenbergs had little to do with exposing the Bomb to the Sovs... VENONA was first broken by Armed Forces Security Agency cryppie Meredith Gardner, & the break was immediately revealled to the Sovs by William W. Weisband, who had penetrated ASA... Armed Forces Security Agency is predecessor to NSA, which was recently revealled to be back in the habit of intercepting civil communications, which it's reputedly been doing since the '80s via software CARNIVORE... Don't you feel so much safer now? Trekphiler 09:37, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Possilbe correction ??[edit]

There is reference to "Roderick Chisholm" which links to a philosopher. The Wikipage for Oleg Penkovsky refers to "Ruari Chisholm", without its own page, and "Janet Chisholm", which appears to be correct and refers to her husband as "Ruari C".


"Widely believed" - who believes Penkovsky was a plant? Widely believed is one of those phrases that signals a need for greater scrutiny. Penkovsky wasn't a plant according to both Russian (see the Mitroykin material, for example) and US sources. The Rosenbergs "weren't involved...?" No, the Venona decrypts show the Julius was deeply involved. Ethel probably knew of his activities but didn't actually participate. NSA uses Carnivore? No, Carnivore is an FBI program that wasn't developed until the second half of the 1990s. I read in the Wiki article on the the SRV that the Russians use the internet to plant disinformation - is this one of those efforts? [1] HeymonKHeymoon (talk) 15:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)