Talk:Grouper

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Restrictions and countries[edit]

May need "country" subtitles, like the "United States." The fish do not migrate  :) and therefore must (or may be) protected locally. There are new US federal restrictions on grouper fishing in US federal waters which (therefore) affects Florida but still may not provide the ref needed to support the "only in Florida" remark, though likely true or close. See for example, http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20100102/NEWS01/1020313/1006/New+rules+put+fish+off+limits. This link will rot after awhile. Florida Today, Jan 2, 2010, pag 1B. My problem is that the state of Florida is also intending separate restrictions. Not being a fisherman, I'm a bit vague on what is being done, the overlap, etc. Catch limits "in" season, as well. Confusing to an outsider. Student7 (talk) 20:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Protection[edit]

In the light of the apparently incessant low-level vandalism recently, I have semi-protected the page (after accidentally applying Pending Changes instead – sorry about that). It's only temporary for now, but if it needs extending, strengthening, or altering in any other way, please contact me. --Stemonitis (talk) 09:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Think this is still necessary? This is the only reason I even came to the Talk page --Mattholomew (talk) 04:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 January 2012[edit]

In north eastern Australia, close to the Whitsunday Islands, there is a floating pontoon called Reefworld, run by Fantasea Tours. A "resident" grouper (referred to as "George" is 10ft long with an estimated weight of 400Kg. I have seen this fish with my own eyes, so this is no urban myth. George has been at this floating pontoon for 30 years. Apparently groupers can live to over 70 years. The fish is able to be seen from above, via a hole cut into the floorboards of the pontoon and also via a semi submerged viewing room.

61.9.222.105 (talk) 23:27, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you fr the suggestion, but that is not really encyclopaedic in nature and doesn't have any linkable source. Skier Dude (talk) 01:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

99 or 163 Species ?[edit]

by the ncbi Taxonomy there are 163 Species under Epinephelinae.

so what is correct ?109.64.141.147 (talk) 14:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sizes of groupers seems to contradict or omit the Giant Grouper[edit]

The giant grouper wiki page describes sizes of upto 600kg and 2.7m where as this page only mentions one at 250kg. Would it be worth mentioning the Giant Grouper and it's size? As the page seems to underplay how big these guys can get. 175.144.246.80 (talk) 13:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I agree. Make sure it is in another section and have hyper links. Make it a small section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.8.212.133 (talk) 13:00, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Auto writes. Agree. Whilst on a ship at anchor in Brunei Bay, about 1986 [IIRC] we caught a 180 Kg Grouper. Mouth big enough to take conventional supermarket basket, widthways. I recall some older diving books [Haas? Cousteau?] mentioning grouper 'the size of a Beetle' (VW Beetle, not Ringo, or stag beetle). Maybe Indian Ocean. But certainly a lot bigger than the 250 Kg mentioned. Photos certainly indicated 'Big Fish'. Now, I appreciate that these big boys might - possibly - be a different species - or genus . . . . Auto wrote. 2241 Z 23 January 2017. 86.157.129.240 (talk) 22:42, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

Anyone know the correct pronunciation? I'm unsure if it's like "group" er or "growp" er.166.147.72.145 (talk) 23:24, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Group"er seems most common --Epipelagic (talk) 06:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Groupers/Hamour/Souman in the Persian Gulf[edit]

In the GCC states, the governments keep track of about 11 different species of Grouper, which are knwon commonly as Hamour; but the same name is given to a specific species within it (coioides within the species Epinphenelus (sp?)). I would like to bring together some information from various GCC sources and add a section on here. Will probably do that in the next couple of days.Abedwayyad (talk) 14:37, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I deleted the section you added about grouper in the Persian Gulf because the article is about a world wide perspective on grouper, and not details about grouper in particular small regions. However, the material you added would be appropriate in an article titled something like "Fishing industry in the Persian Gulf". You could use it with this template. --Epipelagic (talk) 01:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think this will work for the article on the Brown spotted reef cod, which is also where "Hamour" redirects: that's what started the confusion in the first place.Abedwayyad (talk) 10:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2014[edit]

(Image at.[21]) link/image no longer exists

77.71.142.16 (talk) 11:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done removed it. thanks Cannolis (talk) 12:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Weight[edit]

I do not doubt that they can become quite heavy - there is even youtube video footage of a grouper swallowing a small shark, but it would still be useful if the wikipedia article could provide more information as to how heavy they can really become. Right now we don't have links to verify that really. 2A02:8388:1641:8380:3AD5:47FF:FE18:CC7F (talk) 23:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Epinephelinae elevated to Epinephelidae?[edit]

Newer publications (eg one in 2013 [1]) suggest that Epinephelinae to be elevated to family level: Epinephelidae. IUCN Red List already uses this family name--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:48, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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