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Was this ship really called Guttenburg or, as seems more likely, Guttenberg? Deb 12:16, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
This is improved, but it still reads like a magazine feature rather than an encyclopedia article. Accessibility and neutrality first, colour second. Sorry to be a pain in the rear. --Robert Merkel 01:31, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- It's not you that's being a pain in the rear. Deb 12:29, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It would be nice to see the dates -- when was the ship laid down? When was it lost? MsgrCloche 03:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Could someone also please fix the chronology? First it says she capsized on Goodwin Sands' "south sand head" (why is this is qmarks?) and that certain people (but not passengers and crew) were rescued. But "After that, the Guttenburg continued on, only to become trapped upon the Goodwin Sands", at which time no rescue occurred. Eh? How could she have capsized and then continued?
I've tried to clean this up a bit. Regarding the name, the source I added calls the ship Gutenberg, but this calls it Guttenberg. Either way, this article's got it wrong. As for Jarman, he replaced Hogben, the lifeboat man. There is a reliable source to confirm this, which also states Hogben retired due to bronchitis. Nothing to do with this shipwreck, so I've removed the whole thing. DoctorKubla (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2012 (UTC)