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Highest east of Rockies...[edit]

I made more accurate and precise the statement about "highest east of the Rockies." It takes so much explanation to make this true, I wonder if it isn't best just to drop it. Also, some people wonder about Guadalupe Peak in this context. Well, it isn't due east of any point in the Rockies (it's way south of the southern tip of the Rockies near Santa Fe, New Mexico) and its longitude is not any more east than the extreme eastern bits of the Rockies in southern Colorado and northern New Mexico. So it isn't east of the Rockies in any reasonable sense. -- Spireguy 03:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

There are several peaks in the Big Bend region of Texas that are higher than Harney Peak, as well as being farther east. They are all on "mainland North America". I'm a big fan of the Black Hills, and have often repeated this false statement, even altering it to "highest peak east of the Rockies in the United States" but this is also unfortunately false given the aforementioned mountains in Texas. I would be an advocate of dropping the statement altogether. Harney Peak is the highest peak in South Dakota, period. (Unless you wanted to say "highest peak east of the Rockies and outside of Texas in mainland North America" - but you have to add three caveats to make this true!) Blake of the Bluffs 05:19, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to note that the Big Bend region is south east of the Rocky Mountains. The Rocky Mountain range ends in northern New Mexico. -- Feral Duck 16:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

There are also numerous peaks in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado that are higher than Harney as well as directly east of the Rockies. The highest peak directly east of the Rockies and in the U.S. should be Fishers Peak in Colorado, which is part of the volcanic region known as the Raton Mesa. Fishers Peak is nearly 10,000 feet high. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myers333 (talkcontribs) 11:52, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

General Harney ("Woman Killer")[edit]

Why is this mountain peak, which is spiritual to Native Americans, named after a known murderer? This wrong should be made right. No matter how long ago this murderer made his mark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.36.26.86 (talk) 03:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 11 August 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move already happened. If disputed, no qualms for a separate RM (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 18:12, 19 August 2016 (UTC)


Harney PeakBlack Elk Peak – The name of this mountain was changed by decision of the U.S. Board on Geographic Names on August 11, 2016. Acciavatti (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

  • I'd go with Hinhan Kaga, the original Lakota name. But Black Elk-Harney Peak would be my second choice, in honor of the spiritual events which occur there (in Black Elks vision he saw a unity of all living things and all people, so a duo name on Wikipedia would do his vision justice). Randy Kryn 1:23, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
    Or why not mix all three, something like Hinhan Kaga: Black Elk-Harney Peak. Seems a fair way to go, with all the hubbub about naming rights. Randy Kryn 19:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
    Just noticed the interesting spin to the title, if you put an 's' in front of, as well as in back of, 'Peak', you get the name of the book Black Elk SPeaks. 19:50, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Procedural comment: The move as suggested has already been carried out. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 23:25, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Since the name has been officially changed by the US Board on Geographic Names, let's respect that in this article. Someone changed the name back in the Lede to Harney Peak, and I'm going to revert it to the new name, with explanation of change. Let's be adult here.Parkwells (talk) 12:28, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
The Lead of the article should reflect the official name first. The US Board on Geographic Names has jurisdiction over federal lands. It's not up to editors here to decide they want to do something different.Parkwells (talk) 18:39, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

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