Talk:Harry DeArmond

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  • Nice article. Concise, factual, well-written. Jerry picker 22:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Several edits dated September 2012 promoting an Ebay business thus contravening the basic principles of Wikipedia, have been deleted –––– — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryandharoldforever (talkcontribs) 09:59, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I wish to have an External Link added on this page to www.musicpickups.com. This website shows Rowe DeArmond products and historical data musicpickups.com 14:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryandharoldforever (talkcontribs)

Joseph DeArmond-B 2013[edit]

What does this mean? Is this the responsible party? This article is poorly written for a Wikipedia entry, imho.Gimelgort (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Need to split article[edit]

There is precious little biogaphic info available on Harry DeArmond, but I will do what I can to pull some together.

However, DeArmond (or DeArmond pickups) as a company and a brand ought to be set off on its own. It is arguably the first pickup brand to step out on its own, blazing trail for such "pioneers" as DiMarzio and Seymour Duncan.

Help is on the way, albeit slowly.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 20:31, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Problems with article[edit]

Foremost, this article is essentially original research and thus vulnerable to outright deletion.

Worse, though the motives aren't perfectly clear, it is arguably a vanity project. Late 2004, it was put in place by user 195.218.109.45 whose ONLY contribution to WP has been uploading the article (+3,269). A spate of initial editing was undertaken by defunct user Musicpickups. The owner of musicpickups.com claims to have created this article. The article links to musicpickups.com, though fortunately NOT as a source. There is also a musicpickups.com Wordpress blog that makes the same claims. Late 2012, defunct user DeArmond Guru undertook 18 edits in one day, also the only WP contributions. And despite the attention of multiple editors, there are STILL only two citations, one to support trivia and the other for one particular pickup model.

Emphasis is almost entirely on the "monkey stick" pickups. There is no mention of pickups such as the Model 2000 which was marketed by Gretsh as the Dynasonic, or of the various "foil" pickups (now iconic) that appeared primarily on Harmony-brand guitars.

Overall, the article really does look like it was put in place in order to build credibility for some sort of online business. It's hopefully just coincidence that defunct user Rhythmchief (2013) so stridently (and ineptly) insisted on adding comments about how vital and valuable the detachable cables are: These old cables and even new cables are available if you're searching for these screw-on cables. (Yes, these WILL be pared back.)

Though Bud Rowe features big in the article and the story, there is really no information about him or his company (companies?).

There need to be narrative separations between the inventor, the company, the inventions, and design evolutions. As well, there's the influence of DeArmond's tap-playing technique, and a need to list the other music-related devices associated with DeArmond. Couldn't hurt to point out that the current "DeArmond" pickups are merely look-alikes that lack the unique construction of the originals.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 04:38, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

I've found two blogs that seem to have been pilfered word-for-word for passages in this article. One is definitely original work (late 2015) so I'll be doing some restructuring.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 07:10, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

The article is now officially a "work in progress." I do indeed have credible sources to back up what's there. For the moment, though, I'm trying to push the article into proper shape before making attributions; in a few places, I'm finding that trustworthy sources don't agree on a few details (e.g., the actual "release" year of the FH) and am looking for something conclusive before going weaselly and offering both. Please bear with me a while longer.

On the other hand, anyone who wants to contribute — like photos!! — is VERY welcome to do so.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 02:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)