Talk:Harry Houdini

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Fixing[edit]

On death section, there is this "gesturing that he had had enough, and adding that he had had no opportunity to prepare himself against the blows", please fix. . .36.84.70.62 (talk) 05:34, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Fixed 7&6=thirteen () 14:51, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

This sentence was actually correct before (with "had had" in each place). It's the past perfect tense. It's incorrect now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.118.150 (talk) 17:21, 13 August 2017 (UTC)


Also, this sentence in the "Mirror" section is troubling. "This set of cuffs is believed to be one of only six in the world, some of which are not on display." Clearly, there are not only six sets of cuffs in the world, so some indication is needed of what rare feature these cuffs share with only five other sets. Is it that they are Brahman? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.118.150 (talk) 17:23, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Father not a rabbi, but a Jewish soap maker[edit]

According to this article [1] and others, Houdini's father was a soap maker, not a rabbi. --Ghettobuoy (talk) 05:08, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps you can be both?

217.38.80.229 (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Birth Date[edit]

I am very surprised no mention is made of his puzzling assertion all his life that he was born on 6th April (1874 in Appleton Wisconsin). OK, he lied about Appleton, but his Budapest birth certificate http://www.buveszmusor.hu/am/AM_2001-2_20.pdf certainly gives 24th March 1874. It seems as though he tried to make some conversion from Julian to Gregorian (which would give 5th April either 1874 or 1875 depending on when the Julian year number changed (in England on March 25th); but Budapest had actually been using the Gregorian calendar since 1587. Could the Budapest Jews have still used the Julian? And it is still one day wrong, which implies he was also trying to harmonise the day of the week.

All very odd

217.38.80.109 (talk) 20:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I forget the explanation but the issue has been exhaustively discussed. See the two archive links in the box above the first comment on this page. Johnuniq (talk) 23:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Summary / Overview section needs citations / refs[edit]

What is meant by: "As President of the Society of American Magicians, he was keen to uphold professional standards and expose fraudulent artists." - What is a "fraudulent artist"? How would one "expose" a fraud, if one could even prove what that meant? Since magic, so-called, is deception by definition, ALL magic tricks can be viewed as a scam or fraud. Therefore, it is impossible to "expose" a fraud, which is already a fraud by definition. How did he accomplish this? Was it a matter of degrees? This statement needs to be backed up with evidence, or removed. It makes it sound like Houdini had a monopoly on "real" tricks and / or magic, and was the authority over was or was not "fraud". (by 98.194.39.86 on Nov 2, 2016).

Search for the other appearances of the word "fraud" in the article, and you will see that this is a reference to magicians who would claim to have paranormal abilities, which he spent much time debunking late in his career. Also some cases where he exposed magicians who claimed to have invented tricks that originated with others. The Wikipedia manual of style says that citations are not required in the lede paragraph (see WP:CITELEAD) unless the material is likely to be challenged. The lede is generally supposed to summarize the rest of the article, so the presumption is a reader can easily find the summarized material elsewhere in the article and see the citations there. (In this case, by invoking the search function in the browser and looking for "fraud"). --Krelnik (talk) 18:23, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Proposed merge with The House of Houdini[edit]

Does not seem to be a notable subject and the article is unlikely to be expanded much. - MrX 18:38, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Support – This makes sense. Thank you for your proposal. Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 20:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose and Keep No compliance with WP:Before. Article is now vastly improved and should be free standing. 7&6=thirteen () 22:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
User:MrX so much for your prediction that "the article is unlikely to be expanded much." 7&6=thirteen () 16:46, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Well 7&6=thirteen, aren't you just the little magician mathematician in your big top hat!- MrX 17:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Does this affect your vote/motion? 7&6=thirteen () 17:26, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I withdraw the merge proposal.- MrX 17:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Speedy keep should apply. 7&6=thirteen () 17:55, 24 January 2017 (UTC)