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Homosexual Relationships[edit]

Only one Harvest Moon game has yet allowed players to pursue homosexual relationships, "Harvest Moon: DS For Girl."

what "homosexual relationships" are present in the game? i've heard nothing official to this extent. cma 07:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I've done a little poking around, and it would seem that, in the girls version, the player can marry one of two guys or one of 4 special girls. I've seen no screen shots to prove this, just a lot of fourm talk. -- Jelly Soup 21:05, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
The "for girl" version of Harvest Moon:DS allows you to become "best friends" with the four special girls from the "for boy" version, in lieu of getting married. You have a ceremony to commemorate becoming best friends and you can even (I assume) adopt a child after a while. Also, there are 11(!) guys which you can marry if you decide not to befriend the four special girls. --Undrhil 06:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Although Natsume has done a clever job of keeping it from homosexuality, some themes are definitely present there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
More like you're pushing too hard... AliceSKD (talk) 12:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


Does anyone think it would be a good idea to split the template up by console? I would, but I don't know how... Supermariorobot 00:34, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I was working on it before I added the template to each Harvest Moon page. The script was screwing up on me. The problem is that the series isn't very large (system wise) and that throws the tables off. I'll take another crack at it in a moment. -- Jelly Soup 01:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Something keeps screwing up, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I saved it as the broken version, I assume that, what with the template being on so many pages, someone who know more about it will fix it. -- Jelly Soup 01:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
wow, that was fast...Supermariorobot 02:10, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Correct Developer[edit]

Natsume is not the developer of ANY of the Harvest Moon games. Please, do NOT put "Natsume" in the developer area of the various Harvest Moon articles. Depending on the time of release, the developer should say "Pack-In-Video", "Victor Interactive Software", or "Marvelous Interactive Inc.". --Sfida 15:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Recursive Link[edit]

Yasuhiro Wada redirects to the self-same page it is linked from (this Harvest Moon page). This is useless (if amusing). Either put info up on Wada-san's page, or take away the link. Kilyle 07:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

A lot of stuff removed[edit]

In this [1] edit, a lot of useful information that was never recoved has been lost. Should the article be reverted to this version, or should we try to accomodate the old information into the stuff that's been added since? Alcnolien 14:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

A full revert will elliminate everything added up till this point. Attempting to recover the information sounds like a better idea. -- Jelly Soup 01:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
A lot of stuff could be added. All the games should at least be mentioned. The corect year should be at the GBA game listed.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 03:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC).


Should things like fan games and role-playing forums really be added to the links list? -- Jelly Soup 01:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

List of all of the games in the series?[edit]

There should probably exist a list of all of the harvest moon games.

Also, this section is a little ridiculous: "In many versions, it is possible to have children, but always a boy with the exception of Harvest Moon, Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life Special Edition, and Harvest Moon 3. In Harvest Moon: More Friends of Mineral Town, when a girl is played, a baby girl can be born."

"always" is okay if there's 10-20 games, and one or two are the exception. Three games is pushing "always".

There's already a template on the page that includes all the Harvest Moon games. A list is unneeded. - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 15:15, March 25, 2007.

And on the "always" thing, I changed it to "usually". Is that any better? Raven23 14:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

On a games list: We already have a template with all of the game listed. This frees the article up to focus more on facts, history and trends of the series. -- Jelly Soup 20:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
The template is useful, but I'd like to see a more detailed list showing, for each game, what year it was released and on what system. - Brian Kendig 18:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I decided to address the deficiency myself. I collected the system and release date info from each of the Harvest Moon articles and posted it in a list in this article. User:Jelly Soup reverted me with the edit summary "Games list was moved to template (bottom of page) to free up article for other, possibly more relevent, information." I just want to point out that the template doesn't contain system information or release dates, and would become much larger if that info were added to it. I'd like someone (more familiar with the Harvest Moon series than I am) to organize the "Games in the series" section to include multiple releases of the game for different systems, and to group them to show which are sequels and which are merely alternate versions. The reason I came to this article in the first place was because I wanted to find out what would be a good Harvest Moon game for me to start with on my PS2, and when I didn't find that info here, I set out to add it to help other people. - Brian Kendig 03:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

All that information can be found in the individual articles for each game (or could otherwise be easily added so said articles). As for finding a good PS2 game, search for Harvest Moon with a PS2 filter then read the reviews. (There really aren't any good ones on the PS2 at the moment. Save the Homeland is crap, A Wonderful Life better, but still crap. Wait for Innocent Life: A Futuristic Harvest Moon (Special Edition) to be released). -- Jelly Soup 04:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips! How about on GameCube? I could dust my GC off... is there a definitive Harvest Moon you'd recommend on that system? Meanwhile, when I get a chance, I'll go through the individual articles and improve the games list section. - Brian Kendig 18:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
At the moment, Magical Melody is your best bet. Unless you feel like importing a copy of Poem of Happiness. -- Jelly Soup 20:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I personally enjoyed Harvest Moon: Another Wonderful Life (girls), or Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life (boys) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Harvest Moon Articles[edit]

Not particularly this article, but most of the Harvest Moon articles are pretty poorly written. If I sound like I'm complaining I'm sorry. I just don't know much about them or I would fix them myself. Quatreryukami 02:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to bring this up at one of the video game related wikiprojects. Or maybe start a Harvest Moon wikiproject. -- Jelly Soup 07:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I think this artice needs a lot of improvement[edit]

I agree deeply about what Jelly Soup said. Personally, I have played this game a lot so I really know that, the way it is written, and how everything has been explained is poor, I mean, is not really poor, but if it is changed, I think, people who read this would have better understandings of what they are reading. I also would like to request a an article about the Blue Feather, which is used to propose, and where does the idea come from, and if there are customs like this one, in the real world.

Thank you. --Adriel Ukn (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

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What is this Player for Anime/Series Anime stuff?[edit]

The article mentions these things without explaining what they are, and the link only points to anime which doesn't seem relevant. Can someone explain what these things are? Ham Pastrami (talk) 00:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Children section[edit]

In the children section, it states: "Harvest 3 is also the only versions where the player can have multiple children." Im playing the original snes game, and i already have a toddler and my wife is pregnant with a second. But im not actually playing it on snes, im playing it through emulation on my computer, so i dont know if maybe its a glitch or something. has anyone else ever had two children in harvest moon original? --Zoobz19 (talk) 18:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

My friend has had one child, unfortunately, in Harvest Moon: Back To Nature. He hasn't tried to make another one, but he said he will, though. Boky (talk) 08:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


The introduction makes mention of the Dreamcast as a console with a harvest moon game. Wich one is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Harvest Moon for PC?[edit]

Hey, can anyone help me and tell me if there is a PC version of Harvest Moon. I think I've heard there's only a DOS version for PC, but is there any other Harvest Moon for PC? Thanks. Boky (talk) 08:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

There is definitely a PC Harvest Moon game. In fact, I never used to know that it was anywhere else. However, I can't find it on any source that seems reliable, and it may no longer be available. Also, since I was little when we had it, it may have been a pirated or unofficial version.

Japanese website.[edit]

Can someone put the offical japanese website in the "External links" section? (talk) 20:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Am I missing something?[edit]

Why does Muffy redirect here (specifically to a "Muffy" section, which doesn't exist)? The word appears nowhere in the article Sectori (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

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Aggregate review scores[edit]

Hey guys, I'm kind of new to Wikipedia, so I'm sorry if I'm doing any mistake... I tried to put A New Beginning scores on the "Aggregate review scores" table, but it didn't seem to work, does anybody knows where I'm doing wrong or can maybe correct for me? It can be seen on the edit page, but not on the actual article — Preceding unsigned comment added by ViSampaio (talkcontribs) 15:42, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

According to the template documentation, it supports up to 17 games. The game you added is the 18th, so it won't appear. The template itself will need to be edited. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 15:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Do we need to split Harvest Moon and Bokujō Monogatari?[edit]

In lieu of recent events Bokujō Monogatari titles no longer carry the "Harvest Moon" title in English. Natsume are sitting on the English title and using it for their own spin off games. We will need explanation of the trademark issue added to this page either way as it's going to cause confusion.Ayrix (talk) 17:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for this. As this is the first time I have heard of it I just read the IGN source, so strike that. There probably will be a re-direct to probably the new series of Farm Story. With on this page and on the new page an explanation how things went from there. If we would split them off. we would have a lot of redundant information in my opinion. After all Harvest Moon and Bokujo Monogatari have been the same up till this point.NathanWubs (talk) 19:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

This is kind of touchy since this new series from Natsume isn't even part of the "main" "Harvest Moon" series and is their own take on it. It would seem kind of odd to list all of these games as part of their new series, but I guess as more info comes out we can get a better idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

All "main" Harvest Moon games seemingly will not be part of "Harvest Moon" anymore, that's why I started the discussion. Thus far there are 3 Harvest Moon games that are not part of Bokujō Monogatari. Hometown Story, Harvest Moon: Frantic Farming, and Puzzle de Harvest Moon. In addition to the ports done by Natsume. This article, as is, is about Bokujō Monogatari. The issue is that it's Natsume who own the trademark that has thus far been used almost exclusively for English Bokujō Monogatari releases Ayrix (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's been 2 months. Is the page getting split or not? NeverendingPsyburn (talk) 02:27, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Now that the game's out in the US, this should probably be addressed. Fench (talk) 16:50, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Natsume just announced a new "Harvest Moon" game. What is the best way of handling this issue? Fench (talk) 19:30, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

I would suggest renaming this page to Story of Seasons (since XSEED is planning to use that in the future), have Harvest Moon redirect to Story of Seasons and make a separate page named "Harvest Moon (Natsume)", with explanations in all the right places for proper navigation. NeverendingPsyburn (talk) 01:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

This seems like the right choice to me. A few other pages might need renaming too ("List of Harvest Moon games" and the template), but I think this is the best solution. I've never done a move or anything like this before; do I need any sort of confirmation from admins or permission or anything, or can we just start making the changes? Fench (talk) 18:32, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
I am currently working on Story of Seasons (series), Harvest Moon (Natsume) and List of Story of Seasons video games as drafts. Once I feel they're ready I'll try to start migrating everything over. Anyone else is welcome to make changes to these draft pages too. Fench (talk) 21:18, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't know the process either, but you can ask about that at the Help desk, I presume. Also, the game "Return to PopoloCrois: A STORY OF SEASONS" needs to be added to the list of games, but I don't know where to put it. NeverendingPsyburn (talk) 22:37, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
I've asked at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Bokujō Monogatari Naming. Fench (talk) 22:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
No one has answered there and has been a couple of days.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:03, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm cleaning up the drafts I mentioned above a bit more now. As you mentioned, we didn't get much of a response from the Help desk, so if there are no objections, this is what I'm proposing: The Harvest Moon (series) article is renamed/moved to Story of Seasons (series). Harvest Moon (series) will redirect to this page, and the Harvest moon (disambiguation) page will refer to this page. The List of Harvest Moon video games will be renamed/moved to List of Story of Seasons video games. Both of these pages will be largely unchanged except for all mentions of "Harvest Moon" referring to the series being replaced with "Story of Seasons", and the Natsume spinoffs (Lost Valley, Seeds of Memories and the puzzle games) being removed. A separate page Harvest Moon (Natsume series) will be created containing this information. Since there aren't many of them, a separate List of Natsume Harvest Moon games doesn't need to be created. Template:Harvest Moon series will be renamed/moved to Template:Story of Seasons series and the Natsume games will be moved from Spinoffs to their own section (possibly Natsume games), or removed entirely. Category:Harvest Moon games will be renamed/moved to Category:Story of Seasons games, and the Natsume games will be removed from the category. Perhaps a new category could be made for them, but since there are so few this might not be necessary yet. I don't know how renames/moves are handled, so I'll look into that before I make any changes, but if anyone has any suggestions or experience doing this, any information would be appreciated. Unless there are any objections, I'll probably start trying to do this at the end of the week.Fench (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Moves have been made, and I have done some attempt at fixing up redirects and whatnot. If anyone sees anything that's messed up, feel free to let me know or fix it yourself. Fench (talk) 22:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Article name change[edit]

I feel like we should move it back to Harvest Moon. Was there a discussion about the move? I must've missed it. I think WP:COMMONNAME applies to this one.--Krystaleen 16:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Well duh, it's right above mine. However it's not a proper move proposal. @Fench: I think the new title is confusing to general readers. I say move it back and restore all the Harvest Moon references as it was, and make a new article for the new renamed series. Also List of Story of Seasons video games isn't properly titled either since it contains mostly Harvest Moon titles. Just because the series is being renamed doesn't mean all the previous games got renamed too. They're Harvest Moon games, not Story of Seasons games. It's really confusing as it is now.--Krystaleen 16:09, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi Krystaleen. The most unambiguous for that article is, in my opinion, "List of Bokujō Monogatari video games," since all of the old Harvest Moon titles as well as the new Story of Seasons game fit under that title. However, that also leads to having the Japanese name in the title, which would also be confusing for most people. The reason for the change was that the name Harvest Moon no longer belongs to the Bokujō Monogatari series in the West; there is a new series of games being made by Natsume called Harvest Moon that are not Bokujō Monogatari games. Previously the Harvest Moon (series) and List of Harvest Moon video games articles unambiguously referred to Bokujō Monogatari games, but because of this split, this is no longer true. Not every Harvest Moon game is a Bokujō Monogatari game. Going forward, it seems that the new team localizing Bokujō Monogatari games - Xseed - is using the Story of Seasons title to refer to Bokujō Monogatari games. I agree that previous games have not been renamed and shouldn't be (Bokujō Monogatari 2 is still Harvest Moon 64 in North America, not Story of Seasons 64), but they are all games in the Bokujō Monogatari series, which is now being translated as Story of Seasons in North America. This is somewhat confusing, but I think it is better than leaving the series as Harvest Moon since that would also lead to confusion between newer Harvest Moon games which aren't Bokujō Monogatari games. Let me know your thoughts. Fench (talk) 17:21, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Dude it IS confusing isn't it. If you insist on keeping the name, maybe you could make a "name history" section or something like that instead of just a small paragraph. That'll help the general readers to understand more about the situation. I still think this was a controversial move and should've had a proper move proposal though.--Krystaleen 02:52, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
No. Harvest Moon is owned by Natsume, and they have the right to use that brand name. Their games, not ones not released under that title, should be at that title.
We cannot allow fan preferences to dictate how we do things.
The current title makes the most sense given the situation.
In addition, legally, it also makes the most sense. It is not giving Marvelous more terminology than they legally own. Tharthan (talk) 20:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Again, WP:COMMONNAME. Nothing to do with fan preference. I don't even consider myself a fan of the series, I do enjoy some of the games but not all. I'm a casual fan at most. As a matter of fact, because I'm not a fan of the series that's why it's confusing to me when I looked this up. Everyone knows the game as Harvest Moon series. It's the common name. Unless these new games bearing the Story of Seasons title manage to take off and become more popular than the original series it makes more sense to keep the original name. Also, regarding my edit that you reverted, I'm in Asia, but not in Japan, and I own most of the Harvest Moon titles released on Playstation from Back to Nature up to A Wonderful Life and they all bear the name "Harvest Moon".--Krystaleen 02:45, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
You can't do that. Common name arguments don't apply here at all whatsoever. The name just changed not too long ago. Speaking of which, Natsume's separate series, which they also call Harvest Moon, is also "commonly" referred to as Harvest Moon. So we can't keep these separate series under the same title just because you don't like it.
"Unless these new games bearing the Story of Seasons title manage to take off and become more popular than the original series"
You have it backwards, my friend. When Marvelous refused to work with Natsume anymore, they lost the rights to use the Harvest Moon name. They CANNOT use it anymore, and DO NOT use it anymore when referring to the Bokujou Monogatari series. This is for LEGAL reasons. Hence why they have changed the name of the series.
Natsume, on the other hand, has a new series that they have made that is called "Harvest Moon".
The page CANNOT be moved back to the original title because it ambiguates what is being referred to, and Wikipedia is all about disambiguation. And no, before you ask, we are not placing the burden of disambiguation on the Natsume series' page. Natsume has the legal rights to the name "Harvest Moon" and it is not our business to question that.
Also, the burden of providing sources falls upon you, I am afraid, as you are the one trying to remove a claim. If you can provide evidence that the series is known in other Asian countries outside of Japan as "Harvest Moon", provide a citation for that. If not, then the current statement stays.
Also, the move was not controversial at all. You have been the only one to complain about it. Even if you hadn't been, we still cannot allow fan preference (disguised or otherwise) to infiltrate our articles.
By the was, from liker of the series to other liker of the series, I also am angry about what Marvelous chose to do. But facts are facts. There is nothing that we can do about this. Harvest Moon is now the name of a separate Natsume series, whereas Story of Seasons is the new name of the series previously known as Harvest Moon.
(And, also, I do not plan on ever buying a Story of Seasons game in my life, because I do not support what Marvelous has done.)
So my attitude on this has nothing to do with personal preference, but rather with the legal rights involved in the name "Harvest Moon". Marvelous has made it clear that they are not going to be using the title "Harvest Moon" for their series now, and Natsume has made it clear that they are going to be using the title "Harvest Moon" for their new series. So that is that.

Tharthan (talk) 15:02, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter who holds the right to which name. Fact is the previous games were called Harvest Moon, not Story of Seasons, and for some reason they're under Story of Seasons series which is NOT true. They're not changing the names of the previous games, only the new ones get the new name.
Honestly, you sound like a bigger fan than me given how much you know about it. I feel like it should be me who says we shouldn't let fan preference get in the way. Since you know so much about it why don't you write a "name change history" section then to enlighten the general masses? You know, spend your energy to improve wikipedia rather than arguing and throwing accusations. The article as it is now is confusing as heck to the general public. I know it wouldn't be confusing for hardcore fans like you who knows all the details but for people who just randomly stumbled upon this page while casually looking up their childhood games like me, it is.
As for the citation, no I don't need to provide a citation just because I'm removing a claim. Now making a claim does need a citation, which you don't have for that claim that it's only called Harvest Moon in the West only. The previous sentence says that "In Japan, the series is known as such" and the following sentence is only logical to continue with "outside of japan..." You need to provide a source that says that it's only called Harvest Moon in the west only. Because it's unsourced. Speaking of which, what is it called in other Asian countries then? It's not mentioned anywhere in the lede.--Krystaleen 01:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
After trying to dig deeper, apparently in this article List of Story of Seasons video games it says "released in the North American and PAL regions as Harvest Moon". PAL regions include, surprise, Asian countries, which is not the West.--Krystaleen 01:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Ay dios, this got ugly. As for the "in the West" claim, I believe Krystaleen is absolutely right. Looking at the Wikipedia articles for this page in other languages, we see that the Japanese article is obviously titled Bokujō Monogatari, but the Vietnamese and Indonesian articles are titled Harvest Moon. It's not ALL of Asia that uses this name - the Chinese article appears to be named Bokujō Monogatari, but the Harvest Moon name is not exclusive to just Europe and North America, it seems. As for the future of what Bokujō Monogatari games will be called in those countries, I have no idea, but speculation about what they'll end up being (if they're released in these countries at all) shouldn't influence the state of things in the article now. Natsume has stated that they currently have no plans of localizing their new "Harvest Moon" series in Asia, so maybe this issue will never arise there at all. As for the naming issue, I agree that it is confusing, but as I said, there isn't really a good way of handling this at all. Leaving the article as Harvest Moon (series) is a problem, because then we'll have a game like Story of Seasons being called a Harvest Moon game even though it lacks the name, and games like Harvest Moon: The Lost Valley having the Harvest Moon name, but not being Bokujō Monogatari games. Changing it to Bokujō Monogatari (series) removes absolutely all ambiguity, but then we're left with an article with a Japanese name on the English Wikipedia, which isn't right, either. And now the current situation, Story of Seasons (series), solves the issues that would have existed if the title was left as Harvest Moon (series) but creates the issue you're noticing, which is that every Bokujō Monogatari up until Story of Seasons was titled Harvest Moon, which makes things confusing, too. As for the lack of a proper move proposal, I'm new to moves and whatnot on Wikipedia. Over a year went by on this talk page where nobody contested the suggestion of moving/renaming the article, so I didn't consider it controversial. I agree that perhaps more could be done to make this less confusing; the second paragraph of the article explains the naming situation a bit, but perhaps it could be fleshed out more? Let me know your thoughts. Fench (talk) 04:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Fench, for being civil. Anyway I guess there really isn't a better way to handle this, other than adding a section explaining more about the name change. The short paragraph doesn't really explain the details. I learned a lot more from reading the posts of the two of you here than I did from reading the article.--Krystaleen 08:35, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Alright, I'll try writing up a more in-depth explanation about the name change in the article when I get a chance. Hopefully that will clear up most of the confusion! Fench (talk) 18:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Great, thank you!--Krystaleen 07:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay - I got wrapped up in jury duty and was a bit distracted. Let me know if my recent changes help at all! Fench (talk) 19:56, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
That's a tad better, thanks for your effort!--Krystaleen 12:30, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Missing article for Story of Seasons (game)?[edit]

There doesn't appear to be any actual article for the Story of Seasons game. All links that would normally go to the game (rather than the series) redirect to this article on the series. Being an actual separate title in the eponymous series, you would think it would have its own separate article like, say, every other game listed in the series. (talk) 21:25, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

The game does have an article Story of Seasons (video game). It looks like the links weren't changed to point to either the series page or the game page. AnimeCargirl (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2016 (UTC)