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Methods of proving Hawaiian's family relationships[edit]

Shouldn't all this background info be merged into the dedicated articles? There's no point to repeating it with every language. It's not like the Polynesian affiliation of Hawaiian is controversial. kwami (talk) 22:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I see what you're talking about. We don't do that for other languages, so we should be fine moving it. I suspect this section comes from Agent X, a user who tended (before he/she left Wikipedia) to add theoretical information at Hawaiian phonology to a condescendingly redundant degree. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 22:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Quite so. But consider the following:
By contrast, Hawaiian and Tahitian have about 152 cognates in the list, so they are estimated as being 76% genetically related,[26] according to the lexicostatistical method.
How can you determine the cognates without resort to comparative linguistics. Granted, Polynesian linguistics are largely undisputed, but this "argumentation" is a vicious circle. It isn't really different from the largely discredited mass comparison. All the best 157.157.186.24 (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

V[edit]

The letter V appears in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights at least once. Article 2: Ua noa i nā kānaka apau loa nā pono kīvila i helu ʻia ma kēia hōʻike, me ka hoʻokae ʻole i ka lāhui, i ka wai hoʻoluʻu o ka ʻili, i ke kāne a i ʻole ka wahine ka ʻōlelo, ka hoʻomana, ka manaʻo politika a me nā mana’o ʻē aʻe, ka ʻāina a pilina paha i hānau ʻia ai, ka waiwai, ke kūlana hanauna a me nā kūlana ʻē aʻe.

How can that be when V was dropped in favor of W?--31.17.92.168 (talk) 00:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Probably an archaism or Anglicism. You can also spell the word in question with w. Pono kīwila means "civil rights", kīwila being a borrowing from English civil. See p. 163. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Hawaiian language materials[edit]

Grammar

https://archive.org/details/cu31924026915888

https://archive.org/details/ashortsynopsism00alexgoog

https://archive.org/details/grammarofhawaiia00andrrich

https://archive.org/details/shortsynopsisofm00alexrich

Dictionary

https://archive.org/details/ahy2563.0001.001.umich.edu

https://archive.org/details/englishhawaiiand00hitc

https://archive.org/details/ofhawadictionary00andrrich

https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofhawa00andrrich

https://archive.org/details/englishhawaiiand00hitcrich

https://archive.org/details/cu31924026916167

Phrase book

https://archive.org/details/hawaiianphraseb00ltdgoog

https://archive.org/details/hawaiianphrasebo00bishrich

Comparison

https://archive.org/details/ahy2548.0001.001.umich.edu

Hawaiian texts

https://archive.org/details/kabukeaoheluhelu00hono

https://archive.org/details/kabaibalahemolel00bibl

https://archive.org/details/hehoakakaolelono00emer

https://archive.org/details/kealakaioiahoihe00dina

https://archive.org/details/hemaukuhikuhipil00kels

Algebra book

https://archive.org/details/nahaawinamuaoka00bailrich

Bible

https://archive.org/details/gospelaccordingt00hawarich

https://archive.org/details/kekauohahoukokak00bibl

https://archive.org/details/hebukewehiwehihu00clar

https://archive.org/details/hebukewehiwehihu000clar

Hula songs

https://archive.org/details/unwrittenliterat1909emer

https://archive.org/details/unwritten00emer

https://archive.org/details/unwrittenlitera02emergoog

https://archive.org/details/unwrittenliterat20299gut

https://archive.org/details/cu31924026916415

English Lessons for Hawaiians

https://archive.org/details/englishlessonsfo00olesrich

English language accounts

https://archive.org/details/voyagearoundworl00camp

https://archive.org/details/contributionsofv00remy

Rajmaan (talk) 23:23, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Lexicostatistics[edit]

I'm removing the section talking about "lexicostatistics", as it is not accepted as reliable or credible by most linguists, and judging by this talk page I'm not the first person to object to it. -70.181.197.24 (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2015 (UTC)