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Methods of proving Hawaiian's family relationships
Shouldn't all this background info be merged into the dedicated articles? There's no point to repeating it with every language. It's not like the Polynesian affiliation of Hawaiian is controversial. kwami (talk) 22:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- I see what you're talking about. We don't do that for other languages, so we should be fine moving it. I suspect this section comes from Agent X, a user who tended (before he/she left Wikipedia) to add theoretical information at Hawaiian phonology to a condescendingly redundant degree. — Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 22:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Quite so. But consider the following:
- By contrast, Hawaiian and Tahitian have about 152 cognates in the list, so they are estimated as being 76% genetically related, according to the lexicostatistical method.
- How can you determine the cognates without resort to comparative linguistics. Granted, Polynesian linguistics are largely undisputed, but this "argumentation" is a vicious circle. It isn't really different from the largely discredited mass comparison. All the best 18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
The letter V appears in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights at least once. Article 2: Ua noa i nā kānaka apau loa nā pono kīvila i helu ʻia ma kēia hōʻike, me ka hoʻokae ʻole i ka lāhui, i ka wai hoʻoluʻu o ka ʻili, i ke kāne a i ʻole ka wahine ka ʻōlelo, ka hoʻomana, ka manaʻo politika a me nā mana’o ʻē aʻe, ka ʻāina a pilina paha i hānau ʻia ai, ka waiwai, ke kūlana hanauna a me nā kūlana ʻē aʻe.
- Probably an archaism or Anglicism. You can also spell the word in question with w. Pono kīwila means "civil rights", kīwila being a borrowing from English civil. See p. 163. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Hawaiian language materials
English Lessons for Hawaiians
English language accounts
I'm removing the section talking about "lexicostatistics", as it is not accepted as reliable or credible by most linguists, and judging by this talk page I'm not the first person to object to it. -22.214.171.124 (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2015 (UTC)