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Merge[edit]

I agree, but it should probably be done as a move, so as to retain the edit history of the Raytheon Aircraft Company page, with this page being deleted first. Waiting is also good, as this may not be the final name chosen for the new company (they might choose Beechcraft Hawker, or maybe even Hawkcraft Beecher). - BillCJ 23:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The new name is official, per the press releases. Yes, what we should probably do is move the other page here and merge this content into it. But the deal is not final yet and so for now they should be separate pages. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 05:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

As of March 26, 2007 at approximately 10:40 a.m. central time, the transfer is official. The name is Hawker Beechcraft. It was never discussed that any other name be used. They should be separate articles with connecting links.

Thanks. Honestly I can see both side on the articbale merge. Content-wise it makes sense, and it is still the same company, just with new owners. However, they are separate entities, and have unique histories. As it stands, this article is basically a renamed Raytheon Aircraft article. Both have the potential for greater expansion. - BillCJ 17:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Fully Support - After re-reading the Raytheon AIrcraft article, I see that that company was actually formed in 1994 when Raytheon merged Beechcraft (owned from 1980) with its newly acquired Hawker asset. There is an article on Raytheon itself, so both these articles are really very complimentary. Separate pages for Beechcraft and Hawker still exist, so nothing is really lost by merging them. A similar article, MD Helicopters, covers both McDonnell DOugulas Helicopters and the current MD Helicopters. In full disclosure, I created that article that way, but there have been no major objections to that format. - BillCJ
I wonder if there should also be a mention and link to the "Hawker Aircraft" article as Hawker was maintained by Raytheon. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Aircraft “The Hawker legacy was maintained by the American company Raytheon who produced business jets (including some derived from the BAe 125, whose original design dated back to de Havilland days) under the "Hawker" name. This was the result of purchasing British Aerospace's product line in 1993. The name is currently used by Hawker Beechcraft after Raytheon's business jet interests (Hawker and Beechcraft) were acquired by investors and merged together.” It just seems that the article could benefit from more clarity on the role of Raytheon and Hawker in terms of the merge with Beechcraft.
I agree that should be better clarified - let me see what I can do there, with Hawker Aircraft. - Ahunt (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay I added some words to the first para of the history section - see what you think. - Ahunt (talk) 22:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
It also seems that in the portion "following the takeover the BAe 125-800 and BAe 125-1000 were renamed Hawker 800 and Hawker 1000 respectively" are more product specific and are irrelevant to this company overview section. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 22:08, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I think one could argue that is relevant that the company renamed their leading products, but if you think it is too small a detail we can remove it and let the aircraft type articles deal with that issue. - Ahunt (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay I have removed it. - Ahunt (talk) 22:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Looks good on both accounts. I think it makes much more sense on both of the pages. Thanks for your help and guidance. Ericacenci (talk) 13:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Ericacenci

History updates[edit]

I'd like to update the current state of the Hawker Beechcraft page with additional historic information to accurately reflect the company's history and update out of date information. I've declared my conflict of interest here and would like the editor to review my suggested edits.

The first thing I'd like to update is the number of employees stated. Currently, there are 6,600 employees at HBC. The 7,000 listed right now is not accurate. Here is the reference. If you need another third party reference, I can supply that. Career Builder page

I don't have a problem with updating the employee number but the page you have cited doesn't give a number. The "company facts" page linked from there says 8000 employees, but the website is so strangely organized for URLs that the page can't be cited on its own. Do you have a ref that says 6600? - Ahunt (talk) 01:25, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. Will this link suffice for the number of employees? HBC Investor Relations Ericacenci (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
It is fine as a ref, but it says the company has 8000 employees! Is it out of date? - Ahunt (talk) 15:05, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. Can we differentiate the numbers by location? Perhaps something like "Employees 8000 Worldwide; 6300 U.S. Headquarters (2010)". Ericacenci (talk) 16:51, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Sure that will work - I have gone ahead and added that with the ref, see what you think! - Ahunt (talk) 17:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The following historical points should be added to truly reflect the history of Hawker Beechcraft since the new company formed in 2006. As of yet, there is little information provided on the details of events that have occurred. I'd like to make sure this is accurate and presented/cited correctly before I proceed with additional suggestions.

History[edit]

Please see the following suggestions to add under the Company History section and incorporate with the existing content in this section. Thanks for your help! Ericacenci (talk) 19:24, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Since this information below predates the formation of Hawker Beechcraft, don't you think it more properly belongs in the Beechcraft or Raytheon articles, rather than here? It isn't really Hawker Beechcraft history. - Ahunt (talk) 19:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Would it be more appropriate to label this section as Company Founding vs. Company Reorganization as we consider all of these events to have led to the founding of HBC. I wasn't sure of the best way to label it but I think it fits along with the first paragraph under History "On February 8, 1980, Beech Aircraft Corporation..." especially since the aircraft we're mentioning are manufactured today by HBC. Also if we label it "Founding", we could place these historical/evolutionary elements there, and then build out a Historical Timeline with subsections like 2006-2009, 2010-etc. Does this logistically work better? Ericacenci (talk) 22:23, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but I think it is too much detail prior to the company actually being created in 2006 for this article. I still think if it belongs anywhere it would be in the articles for Beechcraft or Raytheon. The general organization of these aircraft manufacturer articles is to have a history section although it can have subsections with headings if that is required for clarity. - Ahunt (talk) 01:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Company Reorganization 1994-September 11th 2001[edit]

In April of 1995, the company's new $10 million, 100,000-square-foot administration building opened in Wichita, Kansas. [1]

In September of 1995, Raytheon Aircraft introduced two new aircraft, the light jet Premier 1 and the Hawker 800XP, which represented the first update to the Hawker line since its acquisition by Raytheon Company.

1997 featured several milestones for Raytheon Aircraft. In June 1997, the company announced the formation of Raytheon Travel Air, an aircraft fractional ownership company featuring the Hawker 800XP, the Beechjet 400A and the King Air B200[2]. That same year the company celebrated the 50th year of continuous production on the single-engine Bonanza series[3].

On May 30, 2001, James E. Schuster was named Chairman and CEO of Raytheon Aircraft, succeeding Hansel Tookes, who becomes President of Raytheon International Inc[4].

Company Timeline[edit]

2006-2009[edit]

On March 26, 2007, Hawker Beechcraft Inc. finalized the purchase of Raytheon Aircraft Company from Raytheon Company. Hawker Beechcraft Inc. is a new company formed by the Canadian investment firm Onex Partners and GS Capital Partners, an affiliate of global finance house Goldman Sachs. Today the company is known as Hawker Beechcraft Corporation—or HBC.[5]

This reads fine, is it your intention to just replace the current sentence "On December 21, 2006, Raytheon reported that it had signed an agreement to sell Raytheon Aircraft to Hawker Beechcraft Inc., a company owned by GS Capital Partners, an affiliate of Goldman Sachs, and Onex Corporation. The sale did not include Flight Options or Raytheon Airline Aviation Services (RAAS). The partnership paid $3.3 billion in a bid announced on December 21, 2006 and completed on March 26, 2007" with this or add it as an additional sentence? - Ahunt (talk) 01:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
The intention was to replace that sentence. Also, your comment above about having too much background information prior to founding makes sense, will make those suggestions elsewhere. I'd like to also suggest the following content, titles and format for consideration to help with the organization and clarity of the overall history section. I've used the existing page content to show where it would make the most sense to insert the new suggestions, as well as the approved sentence replacement just discussed (above). Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!! - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs)
Thanks for posting this here first. In general most of the information is useful, but it isn't written in the sort of of language that we use in the encyclopedia, it sounds like it was written as a press release by the company PR dept with things like "The American Bonanza Society conjointly held their annual convention at Beech Field, flying in nearly 350 Bonanza and Barons to celebrate" and "...aimed at teaching technicians how to create safer flying conditions". Let me rework it into WP:NPOV encyclopedia wording and post a new version below yours and you can see what you think. - Ahunt (talk) 16:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I understand your point. Appreciate the feedback. I'll check back in a bit for your edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 16:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
On another note in the history section, I think the section subhead of "Financial Crisis of 2007-2010" should be "Financial Crisis" there is no clear reason to date this particular section as its in the body copy. Let me know your thoughts on that. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 17:05, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay let me work on a new draft here. Actually the title of the article dealing with what was originally the Financial Crisis of 2008 is now Late-2000s recession, so the titling should probably be closer to that and link to that article, let me re-title it in the article and you can see what you think. Because of sufficient refs available and its impact on the aerospace industry, just about all aircraft manufacturers have sections on this period in history. - Ahunt (talk) 17:25, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, makes sense. I also uploaded the new logo, but didn't post it to the page. Let me know if this is something you can assist with as well. Thank you!! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HawkerBeechcraftLogo.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 17:31, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

─────────────────────────Actually you don't have to post it to the page - it automatically replaces the existing logo there. If you check the article it should be there. If the old one is still showing then hit F5 to refresh the page and it should show up! As long as you are happy with the second draft below then will move it into the article. - Ahunt (talk) 18:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I think that looks good. Let's post it! Also, saw the note about citation 19/20 - why aren't those useable - do I need to find a different source. Thanks for the logo post as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 18:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
User:MilborneOne is a senior admin on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft, we work together often on pages and I value his opinion - he is just questioning whether those two items are significant enough to include in the history of the company. I thought so, but others may disagree, in which case we discuss here to find a consensus on the issue. - Ahunt (talk) 18:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "1995, New administration building opens". Retrieved 2010-03-25.
  2. ^ . 1997-06-04 http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=WE&s_site=kansas&p_multi=WE&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EADB7692E46CF73&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM. Unknown parameter |title-= ignored (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)
  3. ^ "CEO of Raytheon's Beech Aircraft Corp. Breathes New Life into Company". 1997-09-23.
  4. ^ "Raytheon Names Schuster to Succeed Tookes at Commercial-Aircraft Unit". 2001-05-31.
  5. ^ "Raytheon completes sale of aircraft unit to Hawker Beechcraft for 3.3 bln usd". 2007-03-26.

History[edit]

On February 8, 1980, Beech Aircraft Corporation became a subsidiary of Raytheon Company. In August 1993, Raytheon Company acquired British Aerospace Corporate Jets (producers of the midsized British Aerospace BAe 125 line) from British Aerospace and renamed the company Raytheon Corporate Jets; following the takeover the BAe 125-800 and BAe 125-1000 were renamed Hawker 800 and Hawker 1000 respectively.[4] In mid-September 1994, Beech Aircraft Corporation and Raytheon Corporate Jets were merged to form Raytheon Aircraft.[5]

Company Reorganization 2002-2006[edit]

In early 2002, Raytheon announced at the National Business Aviation Association Trade Show the return of the Hawker and Beechcraft brands. On Jan. 20, 2004, Raytheon Aircraft celebrated the 40th anniversary of the first flight of the Beechcraft King Air. The original Beechcraft King Air Model 90 lifted off from Beech Field in Wichita on this date. [1] Later that same year, the Hellenic Air Force used T-6A’s to conduct air patrols, protecting the skies over the 2004 Summer Olympics held in Greece. [2]

Ending months of industry speculation, Raytheon announced in July 2006 that it intended to sell its money-losing aircraft manufacturing business in an effort to focus on core defense related divisions. Bidders for the company included The Carlyle Group, Cerberus Capital Management and Onex Corporation.[6]

On October 3, 2006, at a ceremony in Little Rock, Ark., Raytheon Aircraft Company broke ground on a $16.3-million, 112,000-square-foot facility expansion to support completions of the Hawker 4000. A new 54,000-square foot hangar bay was part of the expansion, as well as extensions of back portions of existing buildings providing additional woodshop, upholstery, sheet metal and storage space. [3]

In March 26, 2007, Hawker Beechcraft Inc. finalized the purchase of Raytheon Aircraft Company from Raytheon Company. Hawker Beechcraft Inc. is a new company formed by the Canadian investment firm Onex Partners and GS Capital Partners, an affiliate of global finance house Goldman Sachs. Today the company is known as Hawker Beechcraft Corporation—or HBC.[4]

2007-2009[edit]

2007 marked the 75th anniversary of Beechcraft. The American Bonanza Society conjointly held their annual convention at Beech Field, flying in nearly 350 Bonanza and Barons to celebrate. [5]

2007 also marked the 60th anniversary of the Beechcraft Bonanza, which remains the longest running production line of all time. Birthdaybonanza.[6]

Throughout 2007 and 2008, Hawker Beechcraft increased their overseas expansion efforts. On October 25, 2007, HBC officially opened its new aerospace manufacturing facility in Chihuahua, Mexico. [7]

2010-Present[edit]

Working with Flight Safety International in early 2010, Hawker Beechcraft announced the grand opening of its 44,000 sq. ft. Maintenance Learning Center, aimed at teaching technicians how to create safer flying conditions. [8]

On March 26, 2010, Hawker Beechcraft appointed Hawker Pacific Singapore as its first authorized service center (ASC) for the Hawker 4000. With the authorization, Hawker Pacific became the first ASC in Southeast Asia. [9] In the same week, W. W. Boisture Jr., Chairman and CEO of Hawker Beechcraft was named to the board of directors for Corporate Angel, which arranges free transportation to treatment for cancer patients using empty seats of corporate aircraft. It arranges more than 200 patient flights to treatment every month.[10]

References

History - second draft[edit]

On February 8, 1980, Beech Aircraft Corporation became a subsidiary of Raytheon Company. In August 1993, Raytheon Company acquired British Aerospace Corporate Jets, producers of the midsized British Aerospace BAe 125 line, from British Aerospace and renamed the company Raytheon Corporate Jets. Following the takeover the BAe 125-800 and BAe 125-1000 were renamed Hawker 800 and Hawker 1000 respectively.[4] In mid-September 1994, Beech Aircraft Corporation and Raytheon Corporate Jets were merged to form Raytheon Aircraft.[5]

In early 2002, Raytheon announced at the National Business Aviation Association Trade Show the return of the Hawker and Beechcraft brands after having marketed them all as Raytheon aicraft.[1]

Ending months of industry speculation, Raytheon announced in July 2006 that it intended to sell its money-losing aircraft manufacturing business in an effort to focus on core defense related divisions. Bidders for the company included The Carlyle Group, Cerberus Capital Management and Onex Corporation.[6]

On October 3, 2006, Raytheon Aircraft Company commenced a US$16.3-million, 112,000-square-foot facility expansion for Hawker 4000 completion work in Little Rock, Arkansas. The expansion included a new 54,000-square foot hangar bay, as well as extensions to existing buildings to provide additional woodshop, upholstery, sheet metal and storage space.[2]

On March 26, 2007, Hawker Beechcraft finalized the purchase of Raytheon Aircraft Company from Raytheon for US$3.3B. Hawker Beechcraft Inc. is a new company formed by the Canadian investment firm Onex Partners and GS Capital Partners, an affiliate of global finance house Goldman Sachs. Today the company is known as Hawker Beechcraft Corporation (HBC).[3]

2007 marked the 75th anniversary of Beechcraft and the 60th anniversary of the Beechcraft Bonanza, which is the longest running production line of all time.[4][5]

In 2007 and 2008 the company increased its overseas expansion efforts. On October 25, 2007, HBC officially opened a new aerospace manufacturing facility in Chihuahua, Mexico and on March 26, 2010 appointed Hawker Pacific Singapore as its first Hawker 4000 authorized service center in Southeast Asia.[6][7]

In early 2010 the company, in partnership with Flight Safety International, opened a 44,000 sq. ft. Maintenance Learning Center, for technician training.[8]

Just a comment the opening of a service center in SE asia, and the ceation of a training center do not appear to be particularly notable or unusual. MilborneOne (talk) 18:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I left them in in the redraft while cleaning out some trivia, but do you think they are too trivial for the article? - Ahunt (talk) 18:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I dont think they should be included. MilborneOne (talk) 20:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay that is one against. I assume User:Ericacenci is in favour of leaving them in, since he or she suggested it, and I am kind of on the fence as to whether they should be in there or not. Any other opinions? - Ahunt (talk) 21:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to comment again - most aircraft manufacturers have training facilities for aircrew and maintainer trainining we would need to know why this is any different to the norm. Same goes about an opening of just one authorised service centre why is the Hawker 4000 and in particular this service centre any different to all the other hundreds of service centres for lots of different types. I suspect Hawker Pacific is not different and probably looking at the website adding the Hawker 4000 to an already large portfolio doesnt appear notable to them either. I suspect they are both come into the WP:NOTNEWS categoryMilborneOne (talk) 21:29, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Those are all good questions - let's see if User:Ericacenci has any thoughts on them. - Ahunt (talk) 21:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I see your point. My main argument to keep this is that this location was a first entry into Southeast Asia for HBC.I think its helpful to see what growth and expansion takes place for the company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 21:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)


Hi there - Question on the following citation/sentence: "Ending months of industry speculation, Raytheon announced in July 2006 that it intended to sell its money-losing aircraft manufacturing business in an effort to focus on core defense related divisions. Bidders for the company included The Carlyle Group, Cerberus Capital Management and Onex Corporation.[6]" -- the article quoted from the New York Times does not mention anything about "its money-losing aircraft manufacturing business" rather it states that "Raytheon announced in July that it was considering selling its Raytheon Aircraft division, based in Wichita, Kan., to focus on its core military and technology businesses." I feel that the article should be changed to reflect that. Do you agree or is there another reference where this particular description is stated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.170.50.162 (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I made the above suggestion, but was not signed in-apologies. Ericacenci (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Ericacenci —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericacenci (talkcontribs) 20:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
No problem - also if you sign your talk page entries here by putting ~~~~ after your entry it will automatically sign your name and the date and time of your entry. It saves the bots chasing you ;).
Yes you are quite right, the ref doesn't indicate it was money-losing, so that should go, and I will remove it. if someone finds a ref supporting that it can go back in then. - Ahunt (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! Ericacenci (talk) 13:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)Ericacenci

References

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Thanks for uploading that new version of the company logo - looks better! - Ahunt (talk) 17:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Products[edit]

Civil[edit]

There are two Hawker products that do not have Wikipedia articles (or they are not linked in this article).

The Hawker 900XP - was redirected to the Hawker 800 article. Shouldn't there be its own page for this and a link to the product on this page? The specifications for the model are here: http://www.hawkerbeechcraft.com/hawker/900xp/specifications.aspx and I can find additional sources, if needed.

This is also the case for the Hawker 750. I believe there should be a link to these two products in this particular HBC article as they are both seperate jets. Source: http://www.hawkerbeechcraft.com/hawker/750/specifications.aspx Again, let me know if I need to supply additional information/sources on each unit to help build the content for each respective article.

King Air 350 -- The current iteration of this the King Air 350i. Is there a way to reflect that in this article? Or have this edited as King Air 350i? http://www.hawkerbeechcraft.com/beechcraft/king_air_350i/specifications.aspx Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks! Ericacenci (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)EricaCenci

I had a look though these types and have added specific links to them. On Wikipedia we don't generally have new article pages for sub-variants of other aircraft and the Beechcraft King Air 350i is covered in the Beechcraft Super King Air article while the 750 and 900XP are variants of the Hawker 800 and are described in that article. If you think more could be said about them then additional text and refs could be added to those articles. - Ahunt (talk) 20:31, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
To add, if that additional information causes the specific variant's coverage to dominate the article, then a split would be warranted. Another consideration is Specs, since we usually only have specs for one variant in non-airliner articles. If the varints differ to the point that covering the specs in the main text is not sufficient, then considering a split is also warranted. - BilCat (talk) 20:55, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the add. I think that is great and understand your points. I'll review and see if there is anything else to add to the article and will review the specs to see how that might look. Thanks again Ericacenci (talk) 22:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Link removal[edit]

C-6 Ute/U-21 Ute and T-34 Mentor were removed as they were built by Beech, not Hawker Beechcraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeroweanie (talkcontribs) 21:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the explanation. In future please indicate why you are doing things in the edit summary, it is the box right above the "submit" button. If you remove text and don't add an edit summary as explanation some editors may mistake your edits for vandalism. - Ahunt (talk) 21:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Any particularly reason why those two have been removed as some of the other Beechcraft products built before 2006 have not been removed for example the Baron? MilborneOne (talk) 22:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
The Baron is still in production today. - Ahunt (talk) 22:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
OK understood all the others have been produced since 2006. MilborneOne (talk) 22:17, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Links[edit]

The following are links that you can use to improve the article:

Article name[edit]

It now seems clear from the bankruptcy proceedings that the company will soon be renamed Beechcraft Corporation, but will be a much smaller company, with fewer employees and no jet line. I am not sure whether we should rename this article or tie this one up at the end of the bankruptcy and start a new article at Beechcraft Corporation. What does everyone else think? - Ahunt (talk) 15:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not certain either. This article also covers the time that the company was "Raytheon Aircraft". I don't think we need a new article for "Beechcraft Corporation", so moving this page to that title is one option. Another option is tie tie this one up, but to just use the main Beechcraft page, especially since the new, smaller company will mainly be concerned with the Beechcraft products. - BilCat (talk) 15:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Those are all possibilities! It looks like it will be early in the new year before the company emerges from bankruptcy and is renamed, so I think we have a little time to decide yet. Whatever we decide we will have to tie in the Beechcraft article one way or the other. - Ahunt (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Any further thoughts yet on how to handle the restructuring? I'm still undecided, but leaning towards tying this one up, and handling the new company at the main Beechcraft article. - BilCat (talk) 01:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
That solution does make sense. We would have to write some "bridge" text there to explain things, but it could be done fairly easily. I think my previous idea of a new article at Beechcraft Corporation would just confuse things unless we create a good nav box that will explain it all. In a way that solution would still leave the Beechcraft article hanging, though, so I like your suggestion better. This Hawker Beechcraft article could then be wrapped up when the bankruptcy legally ends, probably at the end of March and Beechcraft Corporation made a redirect to Beechcraft. - Ahunt (talk) 12:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
It looks like that day has arrived! The bankruptcy exit is today. I have updated the article text and added a ref, although it needs some serious clean up and consolidation now. I am thinking that the previous idea of sewing up this article at this event and continuing the story at Beechcraft is the best way to proceed. Beechcraft Corporation should become a redirect to Beechcraft. Thoughts? - Ahunt (talk) 12:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Works for me. - BilCat (talk) 13:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I don't mind working on this article, if you are interested in taking the story forward in Beechcraft. Beechcraft Corporation is now redirected to Beechcraft. - Ahunt (talk) 18:17, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
I've updated the infobox, and tried to expand the lead, but the main text still needs a paragraph on the banruptcy. - BilCat (talk) 01:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 Done - See what you think. - Ahunt (talk) 02:34, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Looks good, thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Happy to help! Thanks for your work here in figuring out what to do at the end of the bankruptcy. - Ahunt (talk) 02:39, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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