Talk:Headscarf

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Dubious external links[edit]

I have removed the following from the article as they do not appear to meet our external link guidelines. WP:EL-- The Red Pen of Doom 01:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

I found one more.90.244.93.206 (talk) 08:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Feel free to discuss and any which reach consensus as meeting the guidelines can be returned. -- The Red Pen of Doom 01:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The niqab, nor the chador are not headscarves, they are veils. What do you think about it? --85.104.147.59 (talk) 08:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, a scarf is something else. You actually tie a headscarf on your head. A veil is everything but tied. --81.213.66.248 (talk) 02:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that niether the niqab and the chador are not headscarves, they are veils.--Snow storm in Eastern Asia (talk) 15:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An omission is the wearing a sari fold over the head and sometimes veiling the face in South Asia. This is for reasons of modesty and cultural norms, rather than religion. Ash (talk) 21:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article confusion[edit]

There seems to be both differences and similarities between kerchief, bandana, and several other articles. In my opinion, the bandana should have a separate article as it is an incredibly important aspect of western American dress and has unique characteristics such as special tying knots and decorative slides. They are also known more recently as cowboy "wild rags." The kerchief, bandana, scarf, neckerchief, handkerchief, do-rag and headscarf articles have many similarities and cross connections (or lack of them when they should exist). The article on the scarf shows Scout neckerchiefs in an image, but there is no link to the neckerchief article. The Scout neckerchief derived from the western American bandana as it was worn by American scout Frederick Russell Burnham (see his photos while in Africa). So there is that connection, too.
The photo of the girl here in the kerchief article is also shown on the headscarf article as an example. If "kerchief" means "to cover the head", then it is basically a headscarf. Bandanas are work as head kerchiefs by some people such as motorcyclists, in which case they are often called "head wraps", and function in a way similar to a do-rag. Also, where I live in Southern California, silk bandanas are often worn under a vaquero's hat in a similar way. Some of these things are mentioned in the do-rag article, but not in the kerchief article.
It seems that one of the articles could be used as a general article (likely Scarf), with short descriptions and links to the main, more specific articles. - Parsa (talk) 18:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Underestimation of use in Europe?[edit]

The article goes "Headscarves were once used by Christian women as well." and goes on to list some orthodox churches. But in Sweden most women did into the 20th century. I never saw my grandmother (born in 1900) without one, except on rare occasions when she wore a hat. Old women with headscarves was a common sight in general until around 1980. It wasn't associated with religious beliefs as far as I can tell.

I cannot help thinking maybe the situation was the same in rural areas across Europe. And in fact the article goes on to say "... as commonly worn in Europe, especially by elderly women in Russia." Unsourced, but more likely than the earlier statement. JöG (talk) 22:24, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JöG, same here in Belgium. I remember when I asked my grandmother why she wore a headscarf, the answer was because it protected against sandy roads getting dust in her hair, or rain making her hair wet and then it would take a long time until it would dry again, which could lead to getting a cold. Making warm water to wash your hear, was not so easy back in the days when you still had to heat water with wood or coal, no showers but just a bowl to wash your hair in. And in autumn, winter, spring it could be really cold and not be fun to have to run around for a couple of hours with wet hair. My grandmother lived from somewhere 1908 to 1985. I think the article really needs to be expanded. This is really an important topic for discussions on the hijab, muslims/muslimas, if the reason why nuns put on headscarfs is the same why some muslimas put on a hijab. --SvenAERTS (talk) 16:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs to be expanded urgently and link to articles explaining why some nuns wear headscarfs, articles on the hijab and why some muslimas wear it[edit]

This is really an important topic for discussions on the hijab, muslims/muslimas, if the reason why nuns put on headscarfs is the same why some muslimas put on a hijab. There must be a way to escalate it. I tried in that "To-do list:", but when pressing the edit button, I didn't know what to do confronted where to put it with all the code that appeared. Help? --SvenAERTS (talk) 16:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Babushka-- which came first-- the scarf or the grandmothers?[edit]

There seems to me some confusion in the article: Are old ladies called "babushka" because they wear headscarves of the same name, or are headscarves called "babushka" after the old grandmothers who wear them?

My Swiss-American aunts always used to wear "babushkas." They were in the Scranton, PA, USA area, and there were some decent-sized Russian-Orthodox churches (and, I'm assuming, the congregants to attend services and pass along traditions...)

Paulmmn (talk) 03:17, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Headscarf/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

"In Russia they are often worn by young girls to show their convictions to Russian Orthodoxy." I am not sure it's true. I live in Russia and I have never seen young girls wearing it. They have to put it on only when entering Ortodox church.

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Mention Tichels?[edit]

This page has the category of Jewish religious clothing, but no mention of any. Could somebody write a small bit mentioning Tichels? (And would Sheitels also be appropriate to mention?)

(I know I SHOULD do it, but I don't really have much time right now...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.189.94.25 (talk) 07:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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