Talk:Heart failure
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Pointing the Bone[edit]
I understand that people that die psychosomatically - from voodo, the "pointing the bone" of the Australian aboriginies, and people that "turn their face to the wall" in hospitals - the immediate cause of death is congestiove heart failure.
Is this true? Is it worth mentioning?
Lancet seminar[edit]
doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(17)31071-1 JFW | T@lk 13:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- NEJM About diuretics: doi:10.1056/NEJMra1703100 JFW | T@lk 23:12, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Primary sources versus reviews[edit]
Have removed the primary source and updated with this review. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28460827 Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Risk of Death: Ambiguous Phrase[edit]
Here's a curious sentence in the opening section: In the year after diagnosis the risk of death is about 35% after which it decreases to below 10% each year. Huh? What does this mean? Are we trying to say it decreases to below 10%? Or are we trying to say it decreases each year. Because they're not the same thing, and they kind of contradict each other. I think what it's trying to say is that it drops below 10% in the second year and stays that low. Or maybe it continues to drop.
When the line was first written, it said this: …after which it is below 10% each year. That's still clumsy, but a lot clearer. If that's the case, maybe a better way to word it is this: In the first year after diagnosis, the risk of death is about 35%, after which it drops below 10%.
Or maybe this: In the first year after diagnosis, the risk of death is about 35%. By the second year it drops below 10%.
I don't want to make the change myself because I don't have access to the source. —MiguelMunoz (talk) 03:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Text[edit]
The "of an unknown cause" is important as some of the earlier causes also result in cardiomyopathy.
This is unreferenced and wrong "elevated B-type natriuretic peptide (BNP) is a specific blood test indicative of heart failure."
This is less accurate " or a ventricular assist device (VAD). When some or all of these measures are insufficient, surgical intervention is considered: a heart transplant."
VADs are only used in cases at the same stage as heart transplants and thus fit better together. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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