Talk:Herbert Hoover

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Clarify, please[edit]

During his time at Gwalia, Hoover first met Fleury James Lyster, a pioneering metallurgist... An open feud developed between Hoover and his boss Ernest Williams, with Hoover persuading four other mine managers to conspire against his rival.

Lyster is mentioned with two references that tell us nothing about his relationship with Hoover. And we can't tell whether the 'rival' is Lyster or Williams. Valetude (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I note that Lyster is now mentioned just once, in this sentence that seems not to relate to anything before or after: During his time at Gwalia, Hoover first met Fleury James Lyster, a pioneering metallurgist. And Lyster is apparently not notable enough to merit his own wiki page. At this rate, why is he mentioned at all? Valetude (talk) 17:29, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

No living ex-presidents?[edit]

I removed the statement that Hoover being the President with no living ex-Presidents was "a distinction shared, since the tenure of George Washington, only by Richard Nixon (after the death of Lyndon B. Johnson)", because that is inaccurate. See Living Presidents of the United States. This also happened during John Adams' administration; during Ulysses Grant's second term; and during Teddy Roosevelt's second term. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

It is not incorrect because Calvin Coolidge had died on January 5 1933, two months before Hoover left office and replaced by Coolidge's 1920 vice presidential opponent Franklin D. Roosevelt. (talk) 06:10, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

first of his office born in that state[edit]

Full sentence: Herbert Hoover was born on August 10, 1874, in West Branch, Iowa, the first of his office born in that state and west of the Mississippi River.

Should this state "first of his family" or is it an antiquated/rare use of English where context would be useful? I honestly have no idea what this sentence is supposed to mean.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9802:A1B0:2C6D:F3A4:3BEE:AF8D (talk) 07:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

I think it means the first President. Valetude (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Mainstream views of Hoover[edit]

The description of Hoover's handling of the Great Depression seems to be completely hijacked by minority influences - it simply states at the beginning that the public opinion is not true, and only cites Murray Rothbard as disagreeing with him. Wouldn't it make more sense as a wikipedia article to first outline the overwhelming public opinion of him and the evidence for it, and then discuss people who disagree and their evidence? The following passage does not belong near the beginning of the section:

Although many people at the time and for decades afterwards denounced Hoover for taking a hands-off ("laissez-faire") approach to the Depression,[122] he actually pursued an activist policy. Hoover said he rejected Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon's suggested "leave-it-alone" approach,[123] and called many business leaders to Washington to urge them not to lay off workers or cut wages.[124]

Also, even saying that Hoover pursued an activist policy without a direct citation is kind of contrary to the spirit of wikipedia articles. 23:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Agreed. I have a couple other projects to finish up first, and then I plan to address this. Orser67 (talk) 19:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Historical views? Later views of his Presidential legacy?[edit]

Shouldn't there be a section like this? Also, the section that mentioned All in the Family did not mention the song with his name in it from Annie. Geekdiva (talk) 13:09, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

I agree that it would be good if there were such a section. Orser67 (talk) 06:47, 15 February 2017 (UTC)