Talk:Herbert Hoover

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Clarify, please[edit]

During his time at Gwalia, Hoover first met Fleury James Lyster, a pioneering metallurgist... An open feud developed between Hoover and his boss Ernest Williams, with Hoover persuading four other mine managers to conspire against his rival.

Lyster is mentioned with two references that tell us nothing about his relationship with Hoover. And we can't tell whether the 'rival' is Lyster or Williams. Valetude (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I note that Lyster is now mentioned just once, in this sentence that seems not to relate to anything before or after: During his time at Gwalia, Hoover first met Fleury James Lyster, a pioneering metallurgist. And Lyster is apparently not notable enough to merit his own wiki page. At this rate, why is he mentioned at all? Valetude (talk) 17:29, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

No living ex-presidents?[edit]

I removed the statement that Hoover being the President with no living ex-Presidents was "a distinction shared, since the tenure of George Washington, only by Richard Nixon (after the death of Lyndon B. Johnson)", because that is inaccurate. See Living Presidents of the United States. This also happened during John Adams' administration; during Ulysses Grant's second term; and during Teddy Roosevelt's second term. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

It is not incorrect because Calvin Coolidge had died on January 5 1933, two months before Hoover left office and replaced by Coolidge's 1920 vice presidential opponent Franklin D. Roosevelt. (talk) 06:10, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
I agree that there were no living ex-presidents for a couple of months at the end of Hoover's term after Coolidge died. What I disagree with is the idea that this (having no living ex-presidents) happened only to George Washington, Hoover, and Richard Nixon. It also happened to John Adams, Ulysses Grant, and Teddy Roosevelt. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:05, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

first of his office born in that state[edit]

Full sentence: Herbert Hoover was born on August 10, 1874, in West Branch, Iowa, the first of his office born in that state and west of the Mississippi River.

Should this state "first of his family" or is it an antiquated/rare use of English where context would be useful? I honestly have no idea what this sentence is supposed to mean.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9802:A1B0:2C6D:F3A4:3BEE:AF8D (talk) 07:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

I think it means the first President. Valetude (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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Lead Section[edit]

This is biased in this article and that of Presidents Bush and Harding lead sections are mentioned how they were among the worst Presidents yet on Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter articles have no mentions on their lead sections.I say only present the facts and not opinions for both Conservative and Liberal Presidents lead sections let's take a vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edge4life42 (talkcontribs) 19:46, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Ahh, so you just want Democrats to look bad too. Anyway, I suggest you see Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#Notable_scholar_surveys. You'll see there that LBJ is ranked 12th and Carter 27th. Neither of those would put them among the worst. And just to show you this isn't a Republican vs. Dem thing, note Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Lincoln -- all Republicans -- are described as among the greatest presidents in their lead sections. Calidum 19:53, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

No I'm not biased I only want facts presented in a President lead section not some historian opinion no matter how honest he or she maybe it's still just their opinion this is Wikipedia not Youtube only facts should be shown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edge4life42 (talkcontribs) 20:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)