Talk:Herbert Marcuse

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Note from grandson[edit]

Herbert (my grandfather) was not really a "soldier" in World War I. A physical impairment (flat feet, I think) kept him out of combat. He once quipped that he "wiped horses' asses" in Berlin (he was assigned to a cavalry unit). Also, his participation in the 1918 revolution was limited. He did join one of the Workers' and Soldiers' Councils in Berlin, but he never claimed to have played an active role. Just as a historical sidenote, "the forces of the Weimar Republic" did not crush that revolution. The Weimar constitution was completed in August 1919, well after the revolution had been crushed (in January 1919 revolutionary leaders Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht were murdered; the last revolutionary gov't was put down in Munich in March). It is true that those who put down the revolutionary movement worked with the later leaders of the Weimar government, but they were and remained outsiders until the early 1930s, when the Nazis were gaining followers.

Finally, Habermas did not really "care for him" during his final illness. Habermas did live nearby in Starnberg and was present at that time, but Herbert was in a hospital with his wife and son at his side around the clock. Rudi Dutschke's recently published diary contains some interesting entries about Rudi's conversations with Habermas during Herbert's final days.

I am, by the way, the actual author of most of the text on the wikipedia site. It was taken verbatim from the site I created and maintain about Herbert: http://www.marcuse.org/herbert/#biography. From what I glean from the wiki "page history," my text was taken in September 2001 by "Stephen Lea, a psychology professor and www-enthusiast from Exeter in south-west England." Since then, four sentences were added by others (two of which I correct here).

Harold Marcuse

Article Organization[edit]

"Early History and Education" includes information up to subjects death at age 81 or so. I will remove the heading unless other have different suggestions. I also would appreciate elaboration of Marcuse's important ideas. user:Edivorce

Free Love[edit]

Why is there no mention of his early theories of free love? In his later years he never mentioned them but they were still his theories at one point or another.

Response by Harold Marcuse[edit]

Herbert's theories from the 1950s do not explicitly advocate "free love" (nor, by the way, did he coin the phrase 'make love, not war', contrary to the claims on many conservative websites). However, his ideas do point in that direction, and he certainly endorsed that motto of the 1960s antiwar movement. In his 1955 book Eros and Civilization, a melding of the ideas of Freud and Marx, Herbert argues that advanced capitalism is based in part on the sublimation and repression of sexual drives. You can find lots more about this on the wiki Eros and Civilization page. (Click on the link under "major works" on the main Herbert Marcuse page.)

Marcuse's relationship with the Institute for Social Research is unclear[edit]

The Early Life section says both "in 1933 Marcuse joined the Institute for Social Research" and "Marcuse joined the Institut Für Sozialforschung (institute for Social Research), popularly known as the Frankfurt School, in 1932." So was it 1932 or 1933?

It also says that he left almost immediately for exile and didn't return after the war, yet talks about important work he did while he was there.

So how long was he really at the Institute? Does the phrase "while a member of the Institute" imply that he did significant work in association with the Institute while not physically there?

The section is a mess and could use a cleanup by someone familiar with the subject.

Pzriddle (talk) 22:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Here is a sentence with coherent syntax which appears to have no coherent meaning:

"Marcuse did not return to Germany after the war, and when he visited Frankfurt in 1956, the young Jürgen Habermas was surprised to discover that he was a key member of the Institute.[8]"

When WHO "visited Frankfurt in 1956"? Marcuse or Habermas. What is this contributor trying to say?

Please fix this. ---Dagme (talk) 10:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)