Talk:Here Come the Warm Jets

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May 22, 2008 Peer review Reviewed
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Current status: Good article

Nick Kool & the Koolaids[edit]

Am I right in thinking that Nick Kool & the Koolaids, credited with keyboards, were actually NME journalist Nick Kent?

BTLizard 14:21, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Baby's on Fire solo?[edit]

I just reverted this change about the guitar solo in Baby's on Fire: Contrary to popular belief, it was done by Paul Rudolph, not Robert Fripp. I've never heard such a thing before, but googling around I see that other people have made the same suggestion. I can't find a good source for it, however. Can anyone provide a solid source one way or the other (not counting blogs, forums, etc!)? If so, please revert my reversion. thanks. bikeable (talk) 19:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Syllable patterns[edit]

By the way, if you take a count of the syllables on each line of the lyrics of this song, you will find some neat patterns. Jidanni 02:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

YouTube[edit]

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This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 15:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

If that's true, i shall remove it. That's a shame though. Andrzejbanas 18:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. :( I haven't actually reviewed the link on this page personally, so I'm gonna leave it to your judgement. I've got about 4,000 more pages to add this notice too.... ---J.S (t|c) 06:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Release date issues[edit]

Recently changed the release date to November 1973, but that was changed back because both the biggest Eno fansite and discogs apparently weren't good enough sources for that. Funny thing is the Brian Eno discography page (which I didn't change) actually states released in November 1973: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Eno_discography. Might be nice to straighten it all out so it is at least consistent. It's up to whoever is in charge to go for either 1973 or 1974, I'm not doing that again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrafGantz (talkcontribs) 07:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

In an attempt to fix the problems with Eno's album chronology links, I've been searching for a canonical release date for HCtWJ. However, there seems to be some disagreement:

  • In the allmusic entry, the album info sidebar on the left lists the release date as 1974. However, on the same page, the "Releases" table gives 1973 as the year-of-release for the Island and EG LPs.
  • The Eno discography at hyperreal.org lists the release date as 1973.
  • The page for the album on amazon.com lists the release date as 1 Jan 1974

Perhaps this is a UK/US issue? Anyway, based on this information, I'm going to assume that HCtWJ was released in Dec 1973 or Jan 1974 (or perhaps both, in different countries), and as such belongs after (No Pussyfooting) in the chronology. --Register allocation 16:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried to do this recently. My first change was reverted (with an explanation in the edit summary) which prompted a thread and a different change. --PEJL 17:22, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
OK. If it's really true that HCtWJ and (No Pussyfooting) were released the same week "to confound attempts to pigeonhole Eno's style", that should be noted in the articles for both albums (assuming a reference in support can be found). --Register allocation 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
CD release dates - I'm always suspicious of release dates like July 6, 1987 (7/6/87) or July 7, 1987 (7/7/87) from amazon.com or amazon.co.uk. They're not -quite- reliable, especially regarding dates prior to amazon's start date of October 25, 1990, and should not be regarded as absolutely authoritative unless corroborated by a second source. IMHO. Fantailfan (talk) 13:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll try to find one. It's hard to find such obscuro information from elsewhere, but hey. we'll see. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm still in doubt of when this album was released anyways! I can't find a date specific other then the copyright on the record. I'm not an expert, but on my print of the album on vinyl it says © 1973 on the outside of the album, but then says © 1974 and a similar symbol saying Circle P on the inside of it, with another 1974 on it. I don't know what that means! The only real way to find the release date it seems would be by looking at the http://www.bpi.co.uk/platinum/platinumleft.html website and searching it up when it finally reaches a certain level! That's how I found information about all the Roxy Music album release dates. But who knows how long it'll take for Eno. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm also weirded out that Warm Jets didn't chart until March in the UK. I don't know how album sales worked then, but would an album, that had no singles really take that long to reach that level if it was released in 1973? Then again, I find it hard to beleive it took that long to chart even if it was released on January 1st, like I read in some places. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Side one and Side two[edit]

I've been on a side 1 and side 2 kick for pre-1986 albums (as being the original release). Whaddya think? Fantailfan (talk) 20:33, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah go for it, Freak Out! is a Featured article that does it so it should be fine here! Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Personnel[edit]

Should this page conform to musicians first and production personnel (if necessary) second? Fantailfan (talk) 20:33, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Whups, should it? I'm not 100% familiar with the album standards, but sure, swap it around if it's more appropriate that way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Meaning of "Warm Jets"?[edit]

I *know* I read an interview of Eno (possibly in More Dark than Shark) where he explicitly states that Here Come the Warm Jets is a reference to a golden shower. Does anyone has access to any interviews where he talks about this (other than the one cited in the article)?

Webbbbbbber (talk) 23:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to put on the "expert" hat on this one but for the longest time he did say it was about pissing. Reading back on those interviews in the early 70's he was kind of in pure "I'm a Rock Star mode". But in an interview with MOJO in 1996 he claimed the "warm jet" thing was the sound of the guitar and if you read the rest of the article on how he comes up with lyrics and song titles, I think the Warm Jet guitar thing makes more sense then the umm golden shower. I can't find anymore interviews as of now but also to be fair in one of the interviews where the urination thing is brought up it's the interviewer who mentions it and eno replies "oh it's defintitly a reference" so I'd say the interviewer thought it up and Eno thought "how great! I'm using it" and went with it for a while. As for now, I'm going with the newere answer about the album title. Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Then again, I don't have the interview on hand fully but he never seemed to fully explain it's NOT about urination either perhaps that line should be re-phrased that eno claims the title track was an illusion to pissing/golden shower but later claimed it's about warm jet guitar etc etc. I don't know! I can't seem to find another source. Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm. Maybe it is a double entendre. It's also possible that he's slightly embarrassed by his days of "I have one of the world's largest collections of pornographic playing cards." I'll keep looking, and if I can find the references I'll expand that section a little. Thanks for your input! Webbbbbbber (talk) 23:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Sounds fair. I'm not too fussed either way because we at least have a cited allusion to the more colourful (ahem) interpretation, but if you can find more referenced material on it, well then go crazy...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't Eno is embarrassed by that at all. After all, this is the man who in 1995 contrived to urinate in Duchamp's Fountain and then gave a talk about it! SilkTork *YES! 11:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
It seems Eno did admit that could be a reference:

- "...and hence you get the fabulous term 'Golden Showers' – the term for pissing on someone, which some well- known rock musicians are said to be very involved in..."

- Here come the warm jets?

- "That's certainly a reference."

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GA review[edit]

Everything seems to be in order. I removed the alternate album cover since it was basically the same as the original though. Also, an audio sample would be nice to have.--Remurmur (talk) 17:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

cover[edit]

hmmmmm, i strongly suspect the purple thing is eno's feather boa from roxy music. but i can't find anything to back it up. hell, the closest to a credit for the cover art i've found so far is a vague suggestion eno did it himself. --Kaini (talk) 03:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Could be! But that's original research and I'm not sure if that's acceptable for the article. I'm not sure if that cite is acceptable as EnoWeb is a fansite, and fansites are not generally considered reliable sources. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Here Come the Warm Jets/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

Green tickY All the start class criteria
Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Green tickY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year

Green tickY A casual reader should learn something about the album.

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